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Art show sees Europe as 'new Roman Empire'
Telegraph ^ | 09/14/04 | Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

Posted on 09/14/2004 12:39:32 PM PDT by Pikamax

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1 posted on 09/14/2004 12:39:33 PM PDT by Pikamax
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Well, I guess that makes the US the Turks...


2 posted on 09/14/2004 12:41:12 PM PDT by danneskjold (All balloons, what the hell! There's nothing falling! What the f%#@ are you guys doing up there?)
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... I'm trying so hard not to laugh... oh, screw it.

BWAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!


3 posted on 09/14/2004 12:41:32 PM PDT by Terpfen (Liberals want "anyone but Bush." Tell them you're voting for Ashcroft. Watch them cringe.)
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And they are inviting the Huns to come live with them.


4 posted on 09/14/2004 12:41:42 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.)
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...and comes to dominate world affairs through its vast "legal and moral reach".

Oh, yes. I recall Gibbon chronicling how the Romans subdued three continents with an irresistible army of diplomats and lawyers.

Sorry, kids, "we'll be in charge because we deserve it" doesn't cut it in the hard, old world. But nice try.

5 posted on 09/14/2004 12:44:03 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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So the Euro-trash wish. Yeah their real stable. After all they have done such a terrific job in policing their own back yard in Bosnia, Kosovo and Croatia.


6 posted on 09/14/2004 12:45:17 PM PDT by Sprite518
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Segments sketched across 80 yards of canvas predict that the 21st century will be the "European Century" as the EU pushes its borders deep into Eurasia, North Africa, and the Middle East and comes to dominate world affairs through its vast "legal and moral reach".
This is post-modern version of gathering in the Hagia Sophia and praying for the angels to save you.

http://byzantium.seashell.net.nz/articlemain.php?artid=time_last
7 posted on 09/14/2004 12:50:41 PM PDT by Asclepius (protectionists would outsource our dignity and prosperity in return for illusory job security)
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There are certain parallels to the Roman Empire.

In the days of the Empire's decline, the proletarian class of Rome neither earned wages or owned property.

Rome was ruled and owned by a caste of wealthy landowners and all the actual work was done by foreigner servants imported from abroad.

The average Roman citizen, although poor, considered himself to be above work. Since this idle group of losers had little to do except complain and riot when left to their own devices, the upper classes famously gave them "bread and circuses" - free food and games at the coliseum - in order to pacify and distract them.

In today's Europe there are, of course, a caste of superrich and a caste of foreign servants. And there is an enormous middle class that believes itself to be above working, works as little as possible and this class is ready to riot or strike at a moment's notice. So the masters give them the welfare state for free food and football for circuses.

8 posted on 09/14/2004 12:50:57 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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Between socialism, isolationism, and a rapidly growing Middle Eastern population, I think Europe's in for real problems in this century.

Along with the US, the real players of the future will be on the Pacific Rim.


9 posted on 09/14/2004 12:52:03 PM PDT by GeorgiaMike
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Julius Caesar is turning over in his grave right about now.

"All Gaul is divided into three parts; Antiamericium, Appeasementium, and Arrogantium."


10 posted on 09/14/2004 12:53:54 PM PDT by UncleSamUSA (the land of the free and the home of the brave)
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The headline should read:Art show sees Europe as 'new Roman Empire' Circa 476 A.D.
11 posted on 09/14/2004 12:54:13 PM PDT by Seydlitz
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France is the enemy - France has always been the enemy.


12 posted on 09/14/2004 12:54:25 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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The Roman Empire was responsible for spreading the Pax Romana. I would think that quelling such 'uprisings' in Bosnia or Sudan would be the first thing they'd want to accomplish to institute the Pax Europa....

Like that's going to happen.

13 posted on 09/14/2004 12:54:25 PM PDT by akorahil (<Insert witty tagline here>)
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these EU guys are clueless... europe is a *wonderful* place to live that is completely static and stratified to boot...

the innovation which will drive leadership in this world will come from the US, and from Asia, in no way Europe.

It is likely that the WWW will destroy the EU socialist mindset if the Ayrabs don't do it first.

The US will still be standing tall in fifty years, (of course estaremos hablando espanol -- but one has to ask whether they would prefer to meld with the culture of mohammed and osama bin laden or the culture of cervantes, neruda and ortega-y-gasset. the melding will occur regardless of our desires in this matter.)

14 posted on 09/14/2004 12:54:52 PM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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This goes hand in hand with the prophecies in the book of Daniel and in Revelations.


15 posted on 09/14/2004 12:56:36 PM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Goodnight Chesty, wherever you may be.)
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Casting the United States as the villain of modern times, it says: "The lonely superpower can bribe, bully or impose its will almost anywhere in the world, but when its back is turned, its policy is weakened."

That's exactly why I'm an isolationist and a nationalist. The euros have become like spoiled children. We give them everything and they want more. We should and need to withdraw from all peace keeping operations, cut foreign aid, withdraw troops from germany, and withdraw from NATO. Let the world go to hell for a few years and that will make the appreciate us. If we continue to do everything for them, they will continue to be ungrateful.

16 posted on 09/14/2004 12:57:18 PM PDT by chronotrigger (heart of Dixie; or pretty close to it. p.s. F-Franz)
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And yet they claim we are Evil because they claim we have imperial ambitions?

It doesn't matter though, Europe will be a province of the Grand Caliphate by 2050 if not sooner at the rate they are going. And the kicker is we will probably have to go Crusade (again, if you count WWII) to save this aspiring New Rome, just like that last New Rome needed saving from the Muhammadans.

17 posted on 09/14/2004 12:58:05 PM PDT by Pelayo
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This isn't surprising. I've always thought that Europeans have always yearned for the return of the Roman Empire ever since that empire fell. That accounts for the Holy Roman Empire, the Tsars and Kaisers (caesars), and the Reichs and various other empires, etc., along with their current efforts.


18 posted on 09/14/2004 1:00:08 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly)
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It won't matter, since the world's going to end on Dec. 21, 2012 anyway...

:)

19 posted on 09/14/2004 1:00:35 PM PDT by danneskjold (All balloons, what the hell! There's nothing falling! What the f%#@ are you guys doing up there?)
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Pride before the fall.


20 posted on 09/14/2004 1:00:51 PM PDT by Moonman62
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