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First gay divorce granted
Toronto Globe Mail ^

Posted on 09/14/2004 12:00:08 AM PDT by BurbankKarl

Toronto — A judge granted Canada's first same-sex divorce yesterday, ruling that the Divorce Act's definition of "spouse" is unconstitutional.

Madam Justice Ruth Mesbur of Ontario Superior Court gave the divorce to a Toronto lesbian couple whose identities were kept secret.

They were married shortly after the Ontario Court of Appeal made same-sex marriages legal in June, 2003. They had been in a relationship for 10 years, but matrimonial harmony lasted less than a week.

"We believe this is not just the first gay or lesbian divorce in Canada, but actually the first gay or lesbian divorce in the world," Martha McCarthy, a lawyer for one of the women, said outside the court.

"It means that the Divorce Act, which was one of the few statutes that required some consideration after we won the freedom to marry, has now also been amended to take into account same-sex marriage."

In her decision, Judge Mesbur declared "unconstitutional, inoperative and of no force and effect the definition of 'spouse'." in the Divorce Act. She reserved her written reasons and recommendations.

"She struck down the provision of the Divorce Act that stood as a barrier to my client's marriage, but she hasn't issued reasons yet about what she's going to do about it," Ms. McCarthy said.

"She could rewrite the legislation; she could just leave it struck down."

Ms. McCarthy said she expected the judge would provide her reasons and a complete discussion of the remedy within the next few weeks.

Canada has about 3,000 same-sex married couples. Same-sex marriage is legal in Ontario, British Columbia, Quebec and Yukon.

Gail Sinclair, who represented the Attorney-General of Canada in court, said this decision does not necessarily mean that same-sex couples can now be divorced in any province in Canada, even though the Divorce Act falls under federal jurisdiction.

"This decision is specific to Ontario," Ms. Sinclair said. "It's a federal statute, but this decision is an Ontario-based statute. We would guide ourselves [elsewhere in Canada] by what we did here, but that does not mean that Madam Justice Mesbur's decision is a decision for other than this jurisdiction."

Ms. McCarthy disagreed with that interpretation.

"This is a federal law," she said. "If a provision is inconsistent with the Charter, it is void. It is now inoperative. That means inoperative for everyone."

James McLeod, a professor of law at the University of Western Ontario, said the decision is consistent with the Court of Appeal ruling in the first same-sex marriage case.

"Once you're married, if you want out, you have to get a divorce, and the words of the Divorce Act reflected the heterosexual marriage laws that we had," Prof. McLeod said. "It talked about a man and a woman who were married getting a divorce. It didn't make any reference to same-sex parties because at the time of the Divorce Act, there was no such thing as same-sex marriage.

"So if it's unconstitutional not to allow them to marry, it has to be unconstitutional not to allow them to divorce.

Prof. McLeod said the problem in this case stems from the fact that the Court of Appeal, when it legalized same-sex marriage, didn't defer its decision to allow any complementary legal amendments to be made.

And Parliament refused to step in to make the necessary legal changes.

"Parliament, it strikes me, is still trying to figure out what to do," Prof. McLeod said.

The federal government has submitted draft legislation on same-sex marriage to the Supreme Court. Hearings on the matter will begin in three weeks.

Ms. McCarthy said the federal government's reluctance to legislate is comparable to the debate over abortion more than two decades ago.

"It's very consistent with the history of gay and lesbian equality claims in this country that the courts do all the heavy lifting regardless of various legislatures' position that the courts should do as little as possible," she said.


TOPICS: Canada; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; marriage; samesexdivorce

1 posted on 09/14/2004 12:00:09 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: EdReform; GrandMoM; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; stage left; Yakboy; ...

Homosexual Agenda Ping - for what it's worth. Whoop-de-doo. Two female homosexuals who got "married" now got "divorced". That's supposed to be some big victory?

These people are mentally ill and they want us all to join them in their miserable charade of real life.

Let me and ItsOurTimeNow if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.


2 posted on 09/14/2004 12:03:16 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Islamo-Jihadis and Homosexual-Jihadis both want to destroy civilization.)
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To: little jeremiah

Oh man, I am impressed!


3 posted on 09/14/2004 12:05:46 AM PDT by 7thOF7th ("Let's follow the lead, I'd hate to be a free thinker" (second lemming to the third))
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To: 7thOF7th

Next, Safe Houses for the abused wives (?) of wife-beating wives.

?


4 posted on 09/14/2004 12:06:57 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Islamo-Jihadis and Homosexual-Jihadis both want to destroy civilization.)
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To: BurbankKarl

I am waiting for the first gay puppies to be born....


5 posted on 09/14/2004 12:08:11 AM PDT by The Bandit
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To: BurbankKarl

Now I know there is at least one lobby group in support of this insidious and destructive idea, divorce lawyers!


6 posted on 09/14/2004 12:08:17 AM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Cream rises to the top, but in a secular culture, so does the slime.)
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To: BurbankKarl

The real winners in the gay marriage/divorce game are the lawyers.


7 posted on 09/14/2004 12:33:07 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: BurbankKarl

Hmmm... I wonder if they could have got an annulment on the grounds that the marriage was never consummated?

Also, and this'll be an interesting one for the feminists, who gets the kids? Mummy 1 or Mummy 2?


8 posted on 09/14/2004 1:29:27 AM PDT by BritishBulldog (New Labour - Putting the "National" back into "Socialist")
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To: BurbankKarl
She could rewrite the legislation; she could just leave it struck down

The federal government has submitted draft legislation on same-sex marriage to the Supreme Court

It's very consistent with the history of gay and lesbian equality claims in this country that the courts do all the heavy lifting regardless of various legislatures' position that the courts should do as little as possible

Well it seems as the Canadians have simply abandoned democracy for judicicracy. At what point will the Canadian courts simply dismiss the legislature and rule by decree?

9 posted on 09/14/2004 1:42:15 AM PDT by garbanzo (Free people will set the course of history)
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To: BurbankKarl

One of the big arguments on the part of the gays and libs was that there would be FEWER divorces in same-sex marriages. I've been wondering how long it would take for the first gay divorce. Now I know, a little over a year.


10 posted on 09/14/2004 3:45:44 AM PDT by kitkat (George W. Bush, a PROVEN leader)
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To: BurbankKarl
...They were married shortly after the Ontario Court of Appeal made same-sex marriages legal in June, 2003. They had been in a relationship for 10 years, but matrimonial harmony lasted less than a week.

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11 posted on 09/14/2004 3:49:04 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: garbanzo

Closer than we think no doubt


12 posted on 09/14/2004 10:33:02 AM PDT by apackof2 (Damn the torpedos! Full speed ahead!)
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To: BurbankKarl
Ah, equality! They fought for the 'right' to marry, now want to exercise their 'right' to divorce.

Ugh.

13 posted on 09/14/2004 10:34:28 AM PDT by MEGoody (Flush the Johns - vote Bush/Cheney 04)
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To: BurbankKarl

Dang! And they seemed so perfect for each other...


14 posted on 09/14/2004 10:36:43 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: BurbankKarl; Mudboy Slim; scholar; Diva Betsy Ross; FBD
Now that's enlightenment.

...so *progressive*.

15 posted on 09/14/2004 10:38:28 AM PDT by Landru (Indulgences: 2 for a buck.)
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To: BurbankKarl

Sheesh, if only a judge had ruled MY marriage unconstitutional, it would've saved me a lot of pain and money.

These gays don't know how good they have it.


16 posted on 09/14/2004 10:41:20 AM PDT by FreedomAvatar
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To: BurbankKarl

Just goes to show you once again it's not about love like they claim. It's about forcing acceptance of their perversion onto everybody through the courts.



17 posted on 09/14/2004 10:44:37 AM PDT by Trillian
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To: BurbankKarl

Just goes to show that the real aim of homosexual "marriage" isn't "love", it's about getting all the benefits... health insurance (forcing the rest of us to paid for expensive AIDS drugs), adopting kids (to be used as bedroom playthings), etc etc.


18 posted on 09/15/2004 11:02:33 AM PDT by tigerteam_ab
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To: Landru; Mudboy Slim

Sorry guys--I have no intellectual commentary here. I think I have to barf!


19 posted on 09/15/2004 7:35:01 PM PDT by scholar
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To: scholar; Landru

Oh my...wonder if...nawww, I can't think of anything intelligent to say, either...MUD


20 posted on 09/16/2004 7:39:50 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (Girleymen HATE Bush!!)
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