[Fiddlstix]

[Numbers Guy]

It was a pretty weak attempt, putting two different fonts on a very small surface and saying "hey, they look similar". The author shouldn't be taken seriously on any computer-related issue again, because he was clearly dishonest on this one.

[Freepdonia]

The more that want to jump off the cliff with the Dems, Rather, CBS, the Boston Globe, etc., the merrier I say.

[daviddennis]

The two documents were not reproduced at a large enough size to judge quality.

The question of why someone who doesn't type would be issued an IBM Selectric Composer for ordinary memos is also not addressed. You would have to be a skilled Selectric composer user to reproduce the memo as written.

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[NonValueAdded]

^They completely ignore ^the fact that ^the typist in question was hardly a typist. What is ^the difficulty factor on producing a proportionally spaced line using ^the IBM Selectric Composer? Obvious answer: well beyond what a Lt. Col. would use writing a private memo to file.

[Robert357]

Let's settle this once and for all and sit down with Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton in a grand jury chamber under oath and ask them if they "think" that these documents are "fakes."

I am certain that the Clintons will parse the words very carefully and concluded that no, they are what they are, so they can't be fakes of what they are. I hope this settles things once and for all time.(/extreme sarcasm)

[Psycho_Bunny]

PC Mag is to personal computers what Time is to journalism.

They ceased to be a reputable source of tech info years ago.  Most probably because they're scared of pissing off a major company like Dell and having to end up paying for the equipment they review.

[concerned about politics]

PC Magazine Writer says Killian memos are for real

So does CBS, but the majority of the press disagrees.

BTW, electoral #'s (Rasmussen 9/6/04) -
Bush 213
Kerry 175. (Kerry lost @28 points).

[Truthsearcher]

Does it address the question of referring to an officer who had left the NG 18 month earlier?

Didn't think so.

It's a fake, and everyone knows it.

[arichtaxpayer]

I'll have to type a memo to myself that I should never buy their magazine.

[VRWC_minion]

Can they be traced back to Kerry campaign via a NYT style chart ?

[VRWC_minion]

Even the OJ jury would unanimously agree these documents are forged.

[SlickWillard]

In order to demonstrate that it proves absolutely nothing to show that a document can be reproduced a computer, consider the two images below. One of them was typed on an IBM Selectric Composer typewriter; the other was typed in Microsoft Word.

The source of the image made on an IBM Selectric Composer was the printed manual for that IBM typewriter. A scanned image of the manual may be found at here. The manual (as stated in a note on its second page) was actually typed on an IBM Selectric Composer in order to demonstrate its capabilities. (As the note explains, the large-type headlines in the manual were not typed on a Selectric Composer, but everything else was typed on that machine).

But the question is not whether the memo was typed [as he says] or prepared or set [as the manual says] on an IBM "Selectric" Composer, the question is whether it was printed by one.

Besides, all this turd would have had to do was simply consult the "welcome.htm" page written by the maintainer of the site to learn that even that fellow doesn't believe the Killian memos are genuine:

Q: Do you think that the IBM Composer was used to produce the documents in question.

A: No, I do not. And my reasons are more practical than scientific. Let me explain. First, the IBM Composer is NOT a typewriter for general use. Those who used it were typographers/typesetters and were trained on its usage. It contained no error correction capabilities as modern typewriters do. The keyboard was somewhat rearranged from the standard keyboard of a Selectric typewriter. The ribbons used on this machine were specialized (and expensive) ribbons that produced very black output used for reproduction purposes. The machine was extraordinarily expensive. The odds of the military providing anyone, other than someone in a publications department, with a machine like this is unlikely. It is unlikely that Killian would have made the effort to make a superscripted "th", but not pay attention to basic spacing around a comma. My opinion is not a political one, rather it is just based on knowing the difficulty of using this machine, and knowing that it was found mostly in print shops, typesetting shops, small publication offices, and occasionally a law firm, but I've never heard of one on someone's desk (who wasn't a closet typographer). Even if Killian had asked someone else to type it for him, requesting that it be done on an IBM Composer would be like asking someone to phototypeset a memo on a Varityper. Its not practical.

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

Welcome to Air sKerry's complimentary Kool Aide service.

[Michael Goldsberry]

I'm now ashamed to admit that I've bought, and even once subscribed to this magazine.

Never again.

[RogueIsland]

The author should read this before showing himself to be a fool:

http://www.flounder.com/bush.htm

[EllaMinnow]

[Tax Government]

There are dozens and dozens of specific reasons why no impact printer could have produced the CBS docs.

Please bring this criminal, corrupt CBS "news" organization to its knees, then help send it into Chapter 11.

http://www.boycottcbs.com

[Mad Dog Charlie]

I read the PC article. It was nervy to enter the fray with such a poorly researched and misdirected arguement in light of all the work done by experts on the subject. Posters at the site are questioning why this shallow brief is even on the site considering the leading edge tech info PC mag distributes.

The article has been rebuked and refuted quickly.

[NYS_Eric]

You should all check out the more than 2 dozen posts to this original PC Mag article. There are at least 2 posters (WAMOORE & TRIMIL) who are just obliterating the author's arguments. Perhaps they're Freepers? Don't know.