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Authentic or not, Bush memos no big deal to retired guardsmen
AP ^ | 9-11-04

Posted on 09/11/2004 12:18:55 PM PDT by ambrose

Edited on 09/12/2004 12:24:22 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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1 posted on 09/11/2004 12:18:55 PM PDT by ambrose
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To: ambrose; Cincinatus' Wife

AP flip flops their headlines faster than Kerry flip flops on....everything else.


2 posted on 09/11/2004 12:20:58 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: ambrose
I already posted this--but I suspect that guy was never a Navy SEAL.

Someone should contact this address:

http://www.midcoast.com/~waterman/fakevets.html

3 posted on 09/11/2004 12:21:21 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: ambrose

Good article, if they talked to millions of retired or prior service guardsmen and reservist they will get the same sort of answers, if they were being honest anyways.


4 posted on 09/11/2004 12:22:05 PM PDT by aft_lizard (I actually voted for John Kerry before I voted against him)
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To: SkyPilot

This isn't the same article as the one you posted.


5 posted on 09/11/2004 12:25:17 PM PDT by ambrose (Rather Lied -- and the Kerry Campaign Died)
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To: ambrose; All

This whole article should be about the forgeries. HELLO???

I bet some guys have said, "Wow, that's low that they are fabricating documents and using a good man whose been in his grave twenty years (who liked GWB) to hit the CIC in wartime to elect a known traitor." Odd that that didn't make the AP article.


6 posted on 09/11/2004 12:25:27 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: Rokke

Different article than that other one.


7 posted on 09/11/2004 12:25:48 PM PDT by ambrose (Rather Lied -- and the Kerry Campaign Died)
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To: ambrose
Heyyyyyy! Wait a minute!

There is not reference in this article to the Navy SEAL at this similar post (by Times Daily, AL):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1213259/posts

Ahmad Majied of Albany says the latest allegations about Bush's military record are more troubling to him than allegations about service honors leveled at Democratic challenger Kerry. Majied, a Democrat from Albany who served 30 years in the Navy, including five years as a SEAL in Vietnam, said the memos support his belief that Bush was a "playboy" during his service years. "He had enough money to get what he wanted," Majied said. "I think his main concern was not to go to Southeast Asia. I bet he never dreamed it would come back to haunt him."

Something foul is afoot at the Circle K.

8 posted on 09/11/2004 12:27:01 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

This an entirely different article. Totally different spin than that other one.

If by coincidence, this AP story shows up only a few times on Google News, while the more negative one is slammed on the papers across the country.


9 posted on 09/11/2004 12:28:58 PM PDT by ambrose (Rather Lied -- and the Kerry Campaign Died)
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To: SkyPilot

This is also "push interviewing"... That they don't even ask about the forgery aspect is a dead giveaway.

They probably went up to these guys and said "What do you think about the reports that________" Without ever mentioning the forgery reports.

Scum.


10 posted on 09/11/2004 12:30:07 PM PDT by ambrose (Rather Lied -- and the Kerry Campaign Died)
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To: aft_lizard

I am a Naval Reservist and we've been talking about this for months. It is routine for guys to miss drills and reschedule for another date or to do a group of them all at one time as prior reschedules so that they can miss weekends in the future. I am in a squadron as well and it makes no difference.

Once again, the MSM, that spends most of its time being anti-military, has no clue how the military really works. Same goes for the lefties that forged these docs...at least fake something that would matter.


11 posted on 09/11/2004 12:35:01 PM PDT by HRoarke (Dan Rather--Ass Clown)
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To: ambrose
I am not disputing that these are different articles--but something strange is still afoot at the Cirle K.

Look at the men quoted in the articles.

_________________________________________________________________

Men quoted from the first article posted by CW:

Ralph Bradley

Frank Jones

Tim Wilding

Jim Driscoll

Ahmad Majied

Neal Eubanks

Men quoted from ambrose’s article:

Ralph Bradley

Frank Jones

Tim Wilding

Neal Eubanks

Joseph Brennan

______________________________________________________________

It would seem that one reporter was not hung over enough to realize that Ahmad Majied was not a source he wanted to quote as a former Navy SEAL.

12 posted on 09/11/2004 12:40:43 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot
It would seem that one reporter was not hung over enough to realize that Ahmad Majied was not a source he wanted to quote as a former Navy SEAL.

LOL!

13 posted on 09/11/2004 12:41:52 PM PDT by ambrose (Rather Lied -- and the Kerry Campaign Died)
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To: SkyPilot

Also, the tone of the two articles could not be more at odds...

The more negative article hit the wires later than this one here. So I'm thinking that an editor overruled the writers and made it more negative.


14 posted on 09/11/2004 12:43:20 PM PDT by ambrose (Rather Lied -- and the Kerry Campaign Died)
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To: ambrose
Eubanks said it's time the presidential candidates move beyond their military records

Of course I know he meant to say "JFK should move beyond his military record". Yes, that is what he meant to say. Trust the AP to screw it up.

15 posted on 09/11/2004 12:44:04 PM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: ambrose

I don't realize how these 2 stories could have happened. It could be dueling editors, but to have 2 separate stories quoting almost the identical men--with different tones?


16 posted on 09/11/2004 12:46:40 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: HRoarke

I know, I have been all three, active duty, national guard and reservist, I myself have missed up to six months of scheduled duty because of personal problems family and school and work conflicts, that doesnt matter though to the MSM, remember a million voices supporting the president doesnt outweigh one democrat who never served in the guard.


17 posted on 09/11/2004 12:47:32 PM PDT by aft_lizard (I actually voted for John Kerry before I voted against him)
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To: ambrose

Barely.


18 posted on 09/11/2004 12:52:19 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: Rokke

The tone is entirely different. The other one has a negative headline, and leads off with the "angry" guy.


19 posted on 09/11/2004 12:54:09 PM PDT by ambrose (Rather Lied -- and the Kerry Campaign Died)
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That's my whole point. Both are AP articles. Both use exactly the same quotes. But they are 180 degrees out in meaning. If that isn't a flip flop, nothing is.


20 posted on 09/11/2004 12:59:39 PM PDT by Rokke
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