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To Dan Rather, with love
me | me

Posted on 09/11/2004 7:51:29 AM PDT by rocklobster11

Or should I say fo or fr or f anything? It seems that the character f in all the MemoGate documents overhangs the character following it, as shown in the document below:

Based on information I got from Hugh Hewitt's blog, provided to him from Rice University Computer Science professor Robert Cartwright, I decided to look at the memos for evidence of kerning. You can see from the image above, that the character combination "my" appears to be kerned in one document but not the other. However, I'm willing to write this off as being due to artifacts from the copying process. Also, the default Microsoft Word document that overlays perfectly with the memos does not use kerning.

Even without kerning, the Time New Roman (and other proportional fonts) on the computer has a negative offset with the letter f. That means that the top of the letter f will overhang the next character. This is not something that you would get from a normal typewriter in 1972, event with proportional fonts. The text below was written on an IBM Selectric with proportional fonts, and you can see that there is no overhang of the "f" chararacter on the character that follows

It seems that the only way these memos could have been written in 1972 would be on an IBM Selectric Composer, which was a desktop typesetting machine. There is an excellent analysis of the IBM Selectric Composer on http://shapeofdays.typepad.com/the_shape_of_days/2004/09/the_ibm_selectr.html, that shows how close a document created on an IBM Selectric composer could match up to the memos in question. The image below shows the CBS memo overlaid with the output of the IBM Selectric Composer (overlay in red):

The line spacing is off, but if you read the site above, you will see that the line spacing could be adjusted, and you get a pretty good match to the CBS memos. However, this match is not as good as the one produced with Microsoft Word in default settings. To see this, you can look at this Flash animation showing an overlay of MS Word ontop of one of the memos. The animation takes about 30-45 seconds to run, so watch it all.

If you read the commentary at http://shapeofdays.typepad.com/the_shape_of_days/2004/09/the_ibm_selectr.html, you will see the difficulty of creating this document on an IBM Selectric Composer: (e.g. requiring the switching out of font balls to get the superscript or the purchase of a special font ball just to add this non standard character, and the perfect centering of the header which matches identically to the way MS Word centers the same text.

The Boston Globe has interviewed an expert who confirms that these memos could have been created on an IBM Selectric Composer and that the Air Force completed service testing of the IBM Selectric Composer in April 1969. However, using the Composer was not a simple task, and it seems possible but improbable that the Texas Air National Guard would have had one of these machines or that Killian would have typed memos for his personal file on one of these machines. I've heard but do not have any evidence that the Composer was an expensive machine, on the order of several thousand dollars (which would be like $15,000 in todays terms).

All of the other documents in Bush's officially released files were not written with a proportional font, so it's up to CBS to produce other documents written in 1972 by Killian that are comparable to the CBS memos. Certainly, Killian or someone else wrote more than these 4 memos on this complex, expensive typesetting device.

It is possible that Killian wrote these memo's on an IBM Selectric Composer even though:

It's also possible that the Moon Landing was staged in a film studio. It's also possible that there are Alien remains in Hanger 18 in Roswell, N.M. Anything is possible. If CBS were a news organization rather than a Democratic 527 organization, they might at least admit that while possible, the probability is that these are forgeries, and that there is greater probability of finding the Loch Ness Monster than that these memos were written by Killian in 1972.


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KEYWORDS: bush; danrather; forgeries; killian; memogate
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To: rocklobster11

Excellent Information!!! I forwarded it to another 30+ people to spread the Truth.

THANKS!!!


61 posted on 09/11/2004 10:54:52 AM PDT by ezfindit (OrthodoxNet.com - Shining the Light of Wisdom and Truth)
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To: rocklobster11
After researching the 1972 and earlier model Selectric Composers, if find it VERY hard to believe that it would be used by anyone typing as infrequently as a Lt Col. For starters, you had to type every sentance twice!!

Since it has no memory, the user was required to type everything twice. While typing the text the first time, the machine would measure the length of the line and count the number of spaces. When the user finished typing a line of text, they would record special measurements into the right margin of the paper. Once the entire column of text was typed and measured, it would then be retyped, however before typing each line, the operator would set the special justification dial (on the right side) to the proper settings, then type the line. The machine would automatically insert the appropriate amount of space between words so that all of the text would be justified.

The electronic versions didn't come out until 1975

I'm curious about the font in the "ordered to report" memo, does anyone know which font it is? I have not been able to exactly identify it. According to the IBM Selectric Composer manual, these were the only avaialable type styles...

Aldine Roman
Baskerville
Bodoni
Century
Classsified News
Copperplate Gothic
Journal Roman
Press Roman Symbols
Pyramid
Ruling
Theme
Univers

62 posted on 09/11/2004 11:02:51 AM PDT by Verax
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To: rocklobster11

Looks like you post was pulled.


63 posted on 09/11/2004 11:03:40 AM PDT by Verax
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To: Verax
No, I just entered it wrong. here it is:

Part I: What's the Font, Kenneth and Part II: Dan, You Partisan Slut

64 posted on 09/11/2004 11:06:24 AM PDT by rocklobster11
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To: rocklobster11
Perhaps Dan would be interested in this as well:

Factoid
President Bush
Kerry
Service
Texas Air National Guard
US Naval Reserves
Dates
May 1968 - September 1973
Feb 1966 - Jan 1970
Activities
Pilot of F-102 Fighter Jets for 4 years
Commander of Swift Boat for 4 months
Honorable Discharged
Yes
Yes
Released from Service 6 months early
Yes
Yes
Completed All Requirements Prior to Early Discharge
Yes
No
Admitted to War Crimes
No
Yes
Called Other Veterans War Criminals
No
Yes
Met with North Vietnamese and Viet Cong in Paris to Negotiate American surrender
No
Yes
Joined Group that contemplated Assasination of US Senators
No
Yes
Threw Away His Medals
No
Yes
Didn't Throw Away His Medals Before He Threw Away His Medals
No
???
Claims He is a War Hero in Every Speech He Gives
No
Yes
Repeatedly Brings Up His Vietnam Service
No
Yes
Praises His Opponents Vietnam Service
Yes
No
Supported By Most of the Officers Who Served With Him and Supervised Him
Yes
No
Wants US Military to be used only with United Nations Approval
No
Yes
Experiense as Commander in Chief
4 Years
NO

65 posted on 09/11/2004 11:08:06 AM PDT by rocklobster11
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To: rocklobster11
A love letter?

"You know what a 'love letter' is, don'cha neighbor?"

< /Frank Booth >

66 posted on 09/11/2004 11:08:44 AM PDT by Cogadh na Sith (--Scots Gaelic: 'War or Peace'--)
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To: Lady GOP

CBS is almost certainly guilty of trying to influence an election by fraudulent means.

Unfortunately, they don't hold an FCC licence, I believe the individual affiliates do. but they do get special dispensation under McCain Feingold. Can we get that withdrawn on the basis that they are not a legitimate news source?


67 posted on 09/11/2004 11:13:51 AM PDT by Wil H
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To: atomicpossum

The signature looks authentic.


68 posted on 09/11/2004 11:16:33 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: rocklobster11

#65 - Well stated!!


69 posted on 09/11/2004 11:21:13 AM PDT by Verax
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To: rocklobster11

Excellent.


70 posted on 09/11/2004 11:24:52 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (God bless Senator Zell Miller.)
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To: Cogadh na Sith
A love letter?

Actually, it was originally titled "F U Dan Rather", but the moderators decided to replace it with a kinder, gentler title. On the web document, I now call it What's the Font, Kenneth?

71 posted on 09/11/2004 11:32:00 AM PDT by rocklobster11
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To: rocklobster11

Your Factoid chart is excellent except there is a question about Kerry's discharge date.

He didn't get his honorable discharge until 1978 I believe, which raises the question did he get dishonorably discharged in the early 70's and then get pardoned as part of Carter's blanket pardon in 1977 resulting in an honorable discharge in 78?


72 posted on 09/11/2004 11:35:43 AM PDT by Wil H
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To: rocklobster11
It's also possible that the Moon Landing was staged in a film studio. Great, wonderful post! But, c'mon everyone knows the moon shots were faked and wrestling is real!
73 posted on 09/11/2004 11:41:14 AM PDT by handy (Forgive me this day, my daily typos...The Truth is not a Smear!)
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To: atomicpossum

LOL too funny. I'll fax it from Kinko's if anyone can post a fax munber for me. LOL


74 posted on 09/11/2004 11:42:55 AM PDT by handy (Forgive me this day, my daily typos...The Truth is not a Smear!)
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To: Wil H
CBS is almost certainly guilty of trying to influence an election by fraudulent means.

Absolutely no doubt in my mind that this is true.

75 posted on 09/11/2004 11:57:52 AM PDT by Lady GOP
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To: Lady GOP

I love you for telling the TRUTH!!!!!! Hodges speaks..............Blather is TOAST. Let's see what the ghoul (Blather) says on Monday!!!!!!!!!!


76 posted on 09/11/2004 12:11:57 PM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza)
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To: syriacus
Yes...............if it's an inside job.................. GOD BLESS HIM!!!!
77 posted on 09/11/2004 12:13:31 PM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza)
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To: rocklobster11

Let’s face the facts, folks. Dan Rather is following the lead of the man he worships most—William Jefferson Clinton. Rather is going to stick to his story unless and until some court decision determines he lied, at which time most of the kerfuffle will have diminished and he then may humbly apologize while noting his lies really did not harm anyone. It worked for Clinton—why not Rather?

Do you recall Rather’s response to O’Reilly’s direct question a few months ago whether Rather thought Clinton was an honest man? Rather carefully responded he believed Clinton was an honest man.

I do not believe our letters of inquiry or outrage to CBS or any of the other MSM endeavors will have any effect upon the stonewalling attitude of CBS or Rather. Instead, would it not be more appropriate to boycott totally ALL CBS TV programs, beginning with the Sunday news discussions and the NFL season-opening games? Further to emphasize the impact, why not tune specifically to Fox News (where available)—even in the off hours when we are not actually viewing the screen? If this action were strong enough to affect the viewership ratings of CBS, perhaps they would lose sufficient revenues from cancelled political ads to bring executive attention to the public’s displeasure with Mr. Rather and his despicable lack of integrity.


78 posted on 09/11/2004 12:16:04 PM PDT by 2Fro
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To: rocklobster11

Bump


79 posted on 09/11/2004 12:56:31 PM PDT by RJL
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To: rocklobster11

CBS: Unsinkable!


80 posted on 09/11/2004 1:04:05 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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