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Man named in Bush memo left Guard before document was written
Dallas Morning News ^ | 9-10-04

Posted on 09/10/2004 7:06:51 PM PDT by ambrose

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To: ambrose
Retired Col. Earl Lively, who was director of Air National Guard operations for the state headquarters during 1972 and 1973 said Staudt "wasn't on the scene" after retirement, and that CBS' remote-bullying thesis makes no sense.

"He couldn't bully them. He wasn't in the Guard," Lively said. "He couldn't affect their promotions. Once you're gone from the Guard, you don't have any authority."

I am begining to dispise dan rather. His determination to perpetuate this FRAUD, a FRAUD based on SOURCES WHO WERE THERE....even if the MEMOS were not so sickeningly WEIRD...and dan's FAILURE to disclose that the FAMILY, and other sources who are NAMED and were THERE who ALL disagree with that piece of so called investigative PROPAGANDA is simply ASTOUNDING on its face!

DAN RATHER IS SICK! I will NEVER FORGET THIS!

And I think we can put dan rather in the girlie man category, forever....he does not have the dignity nor the COURAGE (shove that, dan) to COME FORWARD WITH THE BLATANT AND HURTFUL ERRORS MADE IN THIS JOKE OF A SOPHOMORIC ATTEMPT TO MISLEAD THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ABOUT THEIR COMMANDER IN CHIEF.

101 posted on 09/10/2004 7:51:06 PM PDT by Republic (Terri Schiavo,saved by TERRI's LAW after 7 days of starvation, fights ACLU-Felos to keep law intact)
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To: Southack
Wow! Masterful job by Southack! When the histories of the 2004 election are written, there will be whole books devoted to this - and the authors will have to consult the FR files and the work of people like Southack. Great!
102 posted on 09/10/2004 7:51:57 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: Riley
Oh, that makes me love my Titanic pic even more! The pic is even a fake! Love it! Thanks!
103 posted on 09/10/2004 7:52:41 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Southack

Don't forget:

Vertical line spacing does not match a typewritten document.

And from a fellow Freeper whose name escapes me:

[A]nother aspect of the type on [the August 18, 1973 memo] suggests, perhaps proves, forgery. 1. The type in the document is KERNED. Kerning is the typsetter's art of spacing various letters in such a manner that they are 'grouped' for better readability. Word processors do this automatically. NO TYPEWRITER CAN PHYSICALLY DO THIS.

To explain: the letter 'O' is curved on the outside. A letter such as 'T' has indented space under its cross bar. On a typewriter if one types an 'O' next to a 'T' then both letters remain separated by their physical space. When you type the same letters on a computer next to each other the are automatically 'kerned' or 'grouped' so that their individual spaces actually overlap. e. g., TO. As one can readily see the curvature of the 'O' nestles neatly under the cross bar of the 'T'. Two good kerning examples in the alleged memo are the word 'my' in the second line where 'm' and 'y' are neatly kerned and also the word 'not' in the fourth line where the 'o' and 't' overlap empty space. A typewriter doesn't 'know' what particular letter is next to another and can't make those types of aesthetic adjustments.

2. The kerning and proportional spacing in each of the lines of type track EXACTLY with 12 point Times Roman font on a six inch margin (left justified). Inother words, the sentences break just as they would on a computer and not as they would on a typewriter. Since the type on the memo is both proportionally spaced and kerned the lines of type break at certain instances (i.e., the last word in each line of the first paragraph are - 1. running, 2. regarding, 3. rating, 4. is, 5. either). If the memo was created on a typewriter the line breaks would be at different words (e. g., the word 'running' is at the absolute outside edge of the sentence and would probably not be on the first line).

3. The sentences have a wide variance in their AMOUNT of kerning and proportional spacing. Notice how the first line of the first paragraph seems squished together and little hard to read but the last line of the first paragraph has wider more open spacing. Even the characters themselves are squished in the first line (as a computer does automatically) and more spread out on the last line where there is more room.

There's no way a typewriter could 'set' the type in this memo and even a good typesetter using a Linotype machine of the era would have to spend hours getting this effect.


104 posted on 09/10/2004 7:53:41 PM PDT by need_a_screen_name
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To: traviskicks

McCauliffe is pretty damn good at covering his own ass by stealling his victems drawers.

The Dems set out to screw the Repubs, but in case they get caught in the act, plan "B" calls for accusing the Repubs of screwing themselves in order to charge the Dems with rape.


105 posted on 09/10/2004 7:53:51 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (DemocRATS promise-RepubliCANS deliver-DemocRATS claim the credit.)
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To: Southack

If even one of these is correct, the document fails. If the smart quotes fit, you must convict!!!


106 posted on 09/10/2004 7:54:51 PM PDT by vox_freedom (Vote, and vote again.)
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To: Malesherbes; Southack

Yep, good point! Any legacy MSM-ish authors who write the books on this will have to wade through dozens of FR threads! Love it!


107 posted on 09/10/2004 7:55:14 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: ambrose

If I get this right, the memo's were written in Times Roman font, but the military (per DOD instruction) has always used Courier 12. Has anyone else seen any official documents written in Times Roman?


108 posted on 09/10/2004 7:55:37 PM PDT by SolitaryMan
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To: ambrose

" He attributed the backlash to partisan politics and competitive journalism."

Competitive "journalism"? CBS...RATHER? LOL!!!!

I wrote CBS and the other so called "journalists" 5 years ago to tell them they had become irrelavant and were FIRED.

......geeez, they're taking their time exiting....


109 posted on 09/10/2004 7:56:08 PM PDT by JustAnotherSavage (If you don't like my peaches, don't shake my tree!)
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To: commish

Okay, thanks. We don't want to be arguing over the wrong points.


110 posted on 09/10/2004 7:58:47 PM PDT by CA Conservative
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To: A Citizen Reporter

""From what we've learned, Staudt remained very active after he retired," the staffer said, speaking on the condition of anonymity. "He was a very bullying type, and that could have continued.""

Staudt is ALIVE and currently not responding to telephone calls to his home. He might come charging out (like Killian's widow and son) to speak to the press after being maligned by CBS staffers who didn't even know him.


111 posted on 09/10/2004 7:58:52 PM PDT by plushaye (President Bush - Four more years! Thanks Swifties.)
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To: Travis McGee

No sweat. There are several other things glaringly wrong with it as well, but to go into it would constitute a threadjacking, so, another time. :-)


112 posted on 09/10/2004 8:01:06 PM PDT by Riley (Need an experienced computer tech in the DC Metro area? I'm looking. Freepmail for details.)
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To: SolitaryMan
Don't know about 1972 --not sure which version of Windows the TX ANG used then; but in the AF today all Awards, Performance reports and official correspondence is done in Courier 10, 12, or 14. I have been in the USAF for 23 years, and every doc I have done on a word processor has been in Courier 12.

Now the unit I am in currently does use Times New Roman 12 for "Soft copy" correspndence.

The reasoning for using Courier is that it is the closest MATCH to the old documents done on Typewriters.

113 posted on 09/10/2004 8:02:52 PM PDT by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: ambrose

Thanks for the news, Ambrose!


114 posted on 09/10/2004 8:03:06 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: ambrose

BUMP!


115 posted on 09/10/2004 8:03:24 PM PDT by jmstein7 (A Judge not bound by the original meaning of the Constitution interprets nothing but his own mind.)
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To: ambrose

Karl Rove did a good job in making up these Doc's !


116 posted on 09/10/2004 8:03:34 PM PDT by mbarr
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To: ambrose

117 posted on 09/10/2004 8:05:48 PM PDT by Henry Krinkle
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To: boris

"Oboy. The fit has hit the shan."
And the thick plottens!!!


118 posted on 09/10/2004 8:07:11 PM PDT by Winfield (sham)
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To: ambrose
BLATHER: "This story is true.
No it is not and repeating it a hundred times, a nazi propaganda technique, will not make it true.

The questions we raised about then-Lieutenant Bush's National Guard service are serious and legitimate," he said, expressing confidence the memos are authentic.

You can call contrived and proven false questions and assertions "serious and legitimate" but again, lies are the stuff of treason.

"Until and unless someone shows me definitive proof that they are not, I don't see any reason to carry on a conversation with the professional rumor mill."

Communist technique: Spout lies until one after the other is proven a lie, then assert that they are not lies. See #1/

In short, Blather should be arrested for his own protection. There are still a few American patriots in this country.

119 posted on 09/10/2004 8:07:34 PM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: Howlin; Buckhead; TankerKC; NYCVirago

Geesh, this stuff keeps hitting (the fan) faster than I can keep up with it!


120 posted on 09/10/2004 8:07:46 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Comrade Hillary - 6/28/04)
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