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Live Thread: CBS Evening News (Dan tells us why we're all wrong)
www.freerepublic.com | September 10, 2004

Posted on 09/10/2004 3:18:38 PM PDT by Howlin

Edited on 09/10/2004 4:53:58 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: TalBlack
Does anyone else feel as though we're living in the twilight zone?

LOL! Yep, although I don't think even Rod Serling could have made up villians as evil as those who are media types and democrats!

1,161 posted on 09/10/2004 6:22:01 PM PDT by ladyinred (John Kerry reporting for "SPITBALL" duty!)
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To: GregoryFul

In the army, 1970 to 74 at battalion (LTC)command level, we had manual underwoods mostly. I cut far too many stencils to ever forget.

If there was an electric someplace, it was in the S1 (personnel) shop and no one else had one. There's no way the battalion level budget would have justified spending over a few hundred bucks for an electric typewriter at battalion level in those days.

The Air Force typically was better provisioned than the Army, but not to the tune of extremely rare, rich typewriters.

JMHO


1,162 posted on 09/10/2004 6:23:01 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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To: nopardons

Yes. And you need a kitten. Call the kitten Couric. The kitten can do the biting commentary.


1,163 posted on 09/10/2004 6:23:30 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Matt32
you can unite all the outlets of the MSM in co-ordinated attacks against the Pres... but when it becomes an issue of money and competition they'll eat each other alive

They're like Muslims. They fight each other as much as they fight everyone else.

1,164 posted on 09/10/2004 6:24:14 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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To: Petronski
The original Macintosh serif font was called "Times Roman."

New York was the original Mac font with serifs -- not that this really matters for anything, and I really don't want to flog a dead horse when there are more important things going on .

Anyway, if you're interested, take a look at http://www.wap.org/journal/fontsoverview/fontsquickoverview.html, for instance. Here are some excerpts:

When the Macintosh was introduced in January 1984, the first thing users noticed were the fonts. Prior to the Macintosh, computers generally displayed everything on screen in a single, monospaced font. In contrast, most of the Macintosh "city" fonts (Athens, Chicago, Geneva, London, New York, San Francisco, Venice) were proportionally spaced fonts, and only one -- Monaco -- was a monospaced font. Almost overnight, the Macintosh became a darling of amateur typographers, and hundreds of shareware fonts sprang into being.

A couple years later Apple introduced PostScript printing with the LaserWriter, and typography really took off. The LaserWriter was capable of reproducing commercial-quality printing, and the original "city" fonts were banished, replaced by Avant Garde, Bookman, Courier, Helvetica, New Century Schoolbook, Palatino, Symbol, Times, and Zapf Chancery.

Progress, however, often has casualties, as it did this time: the very simple Macintosh now seemed to be beset by all kinds of font confusion. New York looked much like Times, Palatino, Bookman and New Century Schoolbook.
. . .
Times, one of the most widely used fonts in the world, was created for the body text of The Times of London. All PostScript printers include Times as a standard font, and a variant, Times Roman, is the default font on all non-PostScript laser printers by Hewlett-Packard and Canon.

Recall that the original Mac didn't have a laser printer or any PostScript printing available. Printing was typically to an ImageWriter printer via QuickDraw, using bitmapped images.

All this is in the interest of accuracy and nostalgia, not argumentativeness :-). It's hard to believe we're looking back 20 years now.

1,165 posted on 09/10/2004 6:24:33 PM PDT by Mitchell
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To: mabelkitty

It's an excellent list, MK. Thanks for compiling.


1,166 posted on 09/10/2004 6:25:08 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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To: bvw
I adore kittens...will CBS pay for the kitty?

But shouldn't I name the kitty,"KELLY"? LOL

1,167 posted on 09/10/2004 6:25:08 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: xzins

Dan is clearly living in a world where he runs the news and no one can question him. Technology has completely passed him by and it shows.

This is how the Viet Nam war was turned into a disaster when it could have been a success, No one could question the alphabet networks because no one had the means. They were free to frame the news anyway they wanted to. Couple the alphabet networks and the dims in congress(like Fulbright) and viola, you get Kerry the fake hero.

It's odd how history repeats, because the dims are trying the whole Viet Nam scam today with Iraq.

Poor Dan...


1,168 posted on 09/10/2004 6:25:36 PM PDT by snooker
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To: nopardons

Two kittens. The morning show could be a cat fight. (Sorry cat-o-philes) It would be great with voice overs.


1,169 posted on 09/10/2004 6:27:00 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Mitchell

bttt


1,170 posted on 09/10/2004 6:27:03 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Mitchell

Thank you for that. I hunted for half an hour on Google, and could not find so thorough a treatment, or anything close.


1,171 posted on 09/10/2004 6:27:09 PM PDT by Petronski (I'd like to volunteer to build a barn and take you press guys out behind it and kick your asses.)
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To: george wythe

"The claim I've read is that the type was available for printing machines, not for typewriters. Is Rather claiming that these documents were produced in a printer shop instead of an office typewriter?"

The distinction is between a typeWRITER and a typeSETTER, Rather almost certainly knows the difference but he will not mention it.


1,172 posted on 09/10/2004 6:28:40 PM PDT by RipSawyer ("Embed" Michael Moore with the 82nd airborne.)
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To: xzins

Thank the Freepers.
They've been nailing this right and left and pinging me everywhere. They are spot on.
I'm just typing and pasting and copying.


1,173 posted on 09/10/2004 6:30:07 PM PDT by mabelkitty (Watch for a CBS employee in a trench coat going by DeepWord.....)
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To: Congressman Billybob

CBS has 48 hours to decide what to do. They've gotten an extra day because of the hurricane. Noicew that as yet, no on from CBS NEWS executive ranks,,or corporate, has spoken on the record..only Rather has addressed it.. Which means they're assessing just now bad it is..


1,174 posted on 09/10/2004 6:31:12 PM PDT by ken5050 (Bill Clinton has just signed to be the national spokesman for Hummer..)
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To: snooker
I concur! It was T.V. that manipulated the Nam War,turned the nightly news into nothing but a propaganda machine/arm of the KGB funded Hippy/Yippy/SDS anti-war hooligans.

This isn't 1968,it isn't even 1971,and in 2004,the old tricks are NOT going to work any more. :-)

1,175 posted on 09/10/2004 6:31:42 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: snooker

100% correct about the MSM losing the Viet War along with Kommie Kerry.

I'll never forget Mike Wallace and Peter Jennings saying in a video I have that they'd not warn a US patrol walking into an ambush, since it would ruin the "story."

Harvard's "Ethics in America" Series. I used it when teaching ethics to troops from approx. 1988 to 2002. It was striking.


1,176 posted on 09/10/2004 6:33:08 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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To: bvw
Trained FIGHTING cats?

Cats don't usually fight each other,no matter what cat-o-phobes might think. :-)

1,177 posted on 09/10/2004 6:33:15 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: RipSawyer

I guess the distinction is that whomever it was that pulled the hoax used a 1972 typesetter and thought they could pull it off. Clever, but not clever enough to fool the freepers.


1,178 posted on 09/10/2004 6:33:41 PM PDT by My back yard (Post # 47 tags it)
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To: snooker
guy as a HANDWRITING expert

I wonder if Marcel did Kerry's "replacement" citations?

1,179 posted on 09/10/2004 6:34:20 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: Dont Mention the War; Petronski
The original bitmapped Mac fonts (on the very first 1984 Mac) were Athens, Chicago, Geneva, London, New York, San Francisco and Venice.

Yes. I don't think I ever saw Arial font on a Mac, which appears in that Font menu, until after it was common on Windows; I always assumed it was introduced for Windows compatibility.

But then that's a screenshot from a German system. I have no idea what would have been included with that.

1,180 posted on 09/10/2004 6:37:16 PM PDT by Mitchell
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