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Live Thread: CBS Evening News (Dan tells us why we're all wrong)
www.freerepublic.com | September 10, 2004

Posted on 09/10/2004 3:18:38 PM PDT by Howlin

Edited on 09/10/2004 4:53:58 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: woodyinscc
CBS exec. on O'Rielly " it is alright to have a dim partisan as a source, but not a partisan Bush supporter.

THEY ADMITTED IT?

I know the Colonel's son said it happened but a CBS exec actually admitted they essentially consider Bush supporters to be liars?

The are imploding...astonishing.

1,021 posted on 09/10/2004 5:25:36 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: franklog
This is not the same Robert Strong
1,022 posted on 09/10/2004 5:25:44 PM PDT by Marylander
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To: cyncooper
People won't forget what CBS was party to here.

Let me expand on what I was saying...I cut it short to watch that wishy washy MSNBC report.

Rather's strategy is to wear out the MSM by ignoring them, assuming they'll eventually tire of demanding CBS release the docs. Then he assumes they'll "move on".

And that leaves....ta da!....us. The very people Rather will point to as partisans consumed with conspiracy theories. Believe me...that's his strategy.

Will it work? It worked for Clinton, over and over and over. But Clinton didn't have the blogs to deal with. Some, like the Note, Instapundit, etc. have gained street cred with the MSM, so it will be interesting to see if they can be flicked away so easily. Clearer?

1,023 posted on 09/10/2004 5:25:55 PM PDT by Timeout (My name is Timeout....and I'm a blogaholic)
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To: Petronski
I remember using a Mac Plus for newspaper layout in 1986, and I used their 'timesy' font a thousand times. It really BOTHERS me that I can't remember that name that I selected from the font menu a thousand billion times.

The original Mac laser fonts: Avant Garde, Bookman, Courier, Helvetica, New Century Schoolbook, Palatino, Symbol, Times, and Zapf Chancery.

Perhaps it was one of those?

1,024 posted on 09/10/2004 5:26:23 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War (we use the ¡°ml maximize¡± command in Stata to obtain estimates of each aj , bj, and cm.)
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To: YaYa123

Dr. Henry Lee, Conn. Coroner was hired to refute evidence in the OJ Simpson trial. Dr. Lee, as great a medical examiner as there ever was, showed atrowel mark in concrete and stated it was a boot imprint. He may have made an honest mistake, but when you're being paid all that $, mistakes in testimony are damaging. Nobody called Dr. Lee on it, but my Dad picked it right off. Paid experts are subject to tweak opinions so the check clears...


1,025 posted on 09/10/2004 5:26:32 PM PDT by NYCop (In Memory of Maj Francis E Visconti USMC, MIA since 22 NOV 65, but not forgotten)
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To: Timeout

yep, this story is dead. As I posted elsewhere all the damage the other MSM's are going to do is done. The story hurts Kerry and helps Bush which is of greater importance than hurting the third place soon to retire Rather. Gentleman's agreement to allow Dan put out some nonesense. The other MSM to save face will acknowledge the inconsistencies and then drop it. CBS blew it and now the MSM have to count on Kitty to help them help Kerry next week. Back to Ivan and Peterson with wrist slap to Dan and crew.


1,026 posted on 09/10/2004 5:26:34 PM PDT by thecanuck
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The pompous ex CBS exec, praising 60 minutes track record to Tony Snow said the producer(?) had been working on this story for 4 years and of course they did not want to talk to Guard memebers who were Bush supporters..wanted to get facts not biases (paraphrasing)..Snow said..You had on Ben Barnes!...well..we said who he was..blah blah..

The ex exec said they had checks and balances unlike a partisan blogger in his pajamas sitting in front of his computer at home.(obviously unaware of FR and the challenges of other posters!)

Dear ex CBS exec...WE don't see the checks and certainly see no balance.


1,027 posted on 09/10/2004 5:26:39 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: Howlin
I am NEVER going to be able to catch up,not ever! LOL

But I'd like to know just when WE became "partisan political operatives". Are you being paid by the RNC,to post live threads,Howlin? ROTFLOL

1,028 posted on 09/10/2004 5:26:57 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Sonar5

looks like the "th" is a special character key, but this example shown could not have been the typewriter used as it is not proportially spaced.


1,029 posted on 09/10/2004 5:27:47 PM PDT by Wil H
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To: Calpernia

Can't very well call themselves "Independent Media" if they're close enough with CBS to consider merging, can they now...

Not to say there's any doubt in my mind that Soros and his little army of 527s are part of a larger co-ordination with the DNC and MSM.


1,030 posted on 09/10/2004 5:28:00 PM PDT by Matt32
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To: numberonepal
"...Today, [on the internet] and elsewhere, some people, including many who are partisan political operatives, concentrated not on the key questions the overall story raised, but on the documents that were part of the support of the story..."

I forget -- was Dan so worried about the "questions the story raised" when the GOP whistleblower leaked the DemonRat Senate committee memos on canning Bush's judicial nominees, or did he just focus on how they came to light?

1,031 posted on 09/10/2004 5:28:02 PM PDT by Sloth (John Kerry: Frank Burns with Charles Winchester's pedigree.)
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To: Howlin
This might have been stated already but I'm not gonna sift through over 1,000 posts to find out. The very first question posed in the above piece, namely: --Did a wealthy Texas oilman-friend of the Bush family use his influence with the speaker of the Texas House of Representatives .. to get George W. Bush a coveted slot in the National Guard .. keeping him out of the draft and any probable service IN Vietnam?

It should be pointed out that Bush's lottery number was somewhere in the 300s, so NO WAY was he ever going to be called up. Thus everything following this is based on false premises.

1,032 posted on 09/10/2004 5:28:19 PM PDT by Cooltouch
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To: Soul Seeker

Yup.! I could not believe it, and he said it with a straight face.


1,033 posted on 09/10/2004 5:28:21 PM PDT by woodyinscc
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To: Truthsayer20
I see you are skeptical as to whether "kerning" is done in these memorandums. Please see the excerpt below from Powerline Blog:

"Look at the fake August 18, 2003 memo (click to enlage):

"Check out the word "my" in line two, or "any" in line four. That's kerning. It was done on a word processor. As, in fact, should be apparent to anyone who looks at the document. Compare it to a genuine, typewriter-produced memo, as we did yesterday. The difference is obvious.

"Kos also never addresses any of the substantive issues: the absurdity, on its face, of writing a memo whose subject heading is "CYA;" the memos' inconsistency with various military usages of the early 1970's; and, most of all, the anachronism in the August 18, 1973 memo, where Killian allegedly writes: "Staudt has obviously pressured Hodges more about Bush." Brigadier General "Buck" Staudt retired in 1972.

I am smart enough to recognize the evidence of "kerning" is needed but not smart or able enough to go through the memos and look for them.

1,034 posted on 09/10/2004 5:28:31 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: Triple

Does your name mean you also post in triplicate?? LOL


1,035 posted on 09/10/2004 5:28:39 PM PDT by CedarDave (USCG Vietnam vet to DC from NM on 9/12 for the "Kerry Lied...While Good Men Died" rally. Join us!)
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To: george wythe
Some analysts outside cbs say....

Uh, Dan, I think that's all analysts outside cbs.

And the DNC and DU, of course.

1,036 posted on 09/10/2004 5:28:49 PM PDT by sphinx
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To: RipSawyer
CBS will do whatever is necessary to avoid producing the original which could easily be shown to be fake

Best I recall, Rather never claimed to have the original. I believe CBS is also going with a copy...which should have set off alarm bells in their "expert"s brain the minute they showed them to him.

1,037 posted on 09/10/2004 5:29:30 PM PDT by Timeout (My name is Timeout....and I'm a blogaholic)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Oh man, I had forgotten about electrostats. The wet copies had a pretty strong chemical odor, IIRC.

BTW, any retired FBI or others you know who might provide an outline of 'what things to look for' if a typewritten doc is authentic?
1,038 posted on 09/10/2004 5:29:36 PM PDT by Mike Fieschko (Oh, and Dick Cheney too.)
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To: MEG33
The ex exec said they had checks and balances unlike a partisan blogger in his pajamas sitting in front of his computer at home.(obviously unaware of FR and the challenges of other posters!)

Is he suggesting that the WaPost, AP, ABC, and NBC are all writing in their pajamas as as well? Because they all not only reported the forgery story, but they also had experts to refute the documents.

1,039 posted on 09/10/2004 5:29:38 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: Petronski
I remember using New York for a font with serifs, and Geneva for a serifless font, back when I was printing on an ImageWriter with an original Mac. When we switched to LaserWriters, the corresponding fonts were Times and Helvetica.

I don't remember when I first saw Times Roman on a Mac, but I think it was quite a bit later. I'm fairly sure that the first time I saw it was in an implementation of TeX, where it was imported from the UNIX world. I could be wrong about this, though.

1,040 posted on 09/10/2004 5:29:42 PM PDT by Mitchell
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