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To: searchandrecovery

"Not on the IBM Executive. Remember, it has spaces that divide each space into three.
Cool - good explanation. I bet you never thought that nugget of knowledge would ever be useful (since then). Nice work."




The memos are still fake. I'm just really tired of people who have no clue saying what could and could not be done on the office machines of the day.

I've been writing this stuff for two days, and still people are saying stupid things about 1970s tech. There are folks here on FR who were there, who used this stuff on a professional basis, and can answer questions. There's no excuse for repeating and repeating the same misinformation.

It only serves to dilute the real message.

These memos are forged. All that's needed is the lovely overlay of a document made in Word that fits perfectly over the memo. Nothing fit perfectly in the 70's. I could take two IBM Executives and do a great job of duplicating the memo. You'd look at it and say, "Wow! I guess I was wrong." It would look so much like the memos in this fraud that you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. It would take me hours to do it, but I could.

But then, if you overlaid the two memos from the two typewriters, there would be all sorts of minor misalignments, even though they looked identical at first glance.

With modern laser printers that just doesn't happen. Everything's perfect, within .001" or less. That's why a printout from Word perfectly overlays the memo. Both were done in Word on a laser printer.

That's all the proof that's necessary.


292 posted on 09/10/2004 1:40:02 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MineralMan

Not to mention one memo refers to receiving pressure to "sugarcoat" from a general who had retired a year earlier.


318 posted on 09/10/2004 1:46:51 PM PDT by ambrose (http://www.swiftvets.com/)
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To: MineralMan

Share your concern - they're helping to create a strawman that can be knocked down.


324 posted on 09/10/2004 1:49:14 PM PDT by ambrose (http://www.swiftvets.com/)
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To: MineralMan
I used a typewriter in 1972. But my typing was awful!!!

Could be because I was only two!
336 posted on 09/10/2004 1:52:36 PM PDT by marktuoni (#47 Buckhead, Freeper of the year!)
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To: MineralMan
It would look so much like the memos in this fraud that you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. It would take me hours to do it, but I could.

I'm sorry, I don't believe that.

337 posted on 09/10/2004 1:52:45 PM PDT by Petronski (I'd like to volunteer to build a barn and take you press guys out behind it and kick your asses.)
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To: MineralMan
That's all the proof that's necessary.

I have taken a look at several other documents regarding Bush's service. Not all, of course, were produced out of Texas, but I have seen none that remotely match the CBS documents.

392 posted on 09/10/2004 2:07:07 PM PDT by Dolphy (Support swiftvets.com)
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To: MineralMan
I, too, assert these are forgeries.

Yesterday I posted several times a link to an IBM typewriter website that purported to show proportional spacing was not possible at the time of these memos. I have used "only" the various iterations of IBM Selectrics myself, beginning in the late 1960's.

MineralMan has shown that I am/was wrong (Ouch!) about the IBM Executive. Others here are showing that at least some of the questions in "the list" can be answered.

MineralMan is quite correct - he has patiently, diligently and repeatedly tried to educate the Forum as to facts, and to promote the (perhaps only) important finding on FR - the overlay image, seen on many threads.

507 posted on 09/10/2004 2:44:51 PM PDT by 1stMarylandRegiment
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