Chechen leaders’ relatives say stop terrorism, punish massacre perpetrators

AsiaNews.it ^ | September 7, 2004 | Staff

[Luis Gonzalez]

"These family members (clan, relatives) are PRECISELY the ones who should be liquidated to pay for the murder of 150 Russian children and 200 adults by Chechnyan Jihadists. Offing the Jihadist's family is the only language Mohammedans understand."

Spoken like a true Jihadist.

[Luis Gonzalez]

LOL!!

I don't think Baptists is a religion...do I get to violate their First Amendment Rights as well?

[Luis Gonzalez]

Getting a little hysterical?

[dennisw]

Waste 'em. Waste the Chechnyan Jihadist clans. It's amusing to read the self righteous basura you post

[Luis Gonzalez]

You know what I enjoy the most?

Exposing you for the Jihadist that you are...there isn't a dime's worth of difference between you and a terrorist...except that you're all talk.

[silversky]

LOL

[silversky]

Exposing you for the Jihadist that you are...there isn't a dime's worth of difference between you and a terrorist...except that you're all talk.

If you want to expose jihadists you are at wrong place. There is the plan for you. Go to your Mid East country, fight the government, replace it, take the money out of the rich jihadi sponsors and build a future for your citizens. Only then you will prove that Islam is a religion and not a Nazi script masked as a one. This is the acid test Luis. But you failed it so many times that I'm not holding my breath. If you cannot do that, you'll have to settle for the "realpolitik" approach. It's that simple.

[dennisw]

Luis at his kookiest. You would fit in great at DU.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Jihadists advocate the killing of people innocent of any crimes in the name of a crusade or as punishment via proxy to those actually guilty of real or imagined trangressions...exactly what dennisw advocates.

Sadly, dennis is representative of the kind of mentality that abounds in the Middle East which perpetuates all these revenge killings, crusades, and jihads.

I don't have to prove that Islam is a religion, I don't care whether it is or not. However, if you wish to invalidate First Amendment rights from Muslims, then it incumbent upon YOU to prove that the 12 million American Muslims are guilty of any wrongdoing coming about as a result of their religion. We do not do guilt by association in American Courts.

Meanwhile, you must equally explain how exactly these Chechen terrorists are worthy of any punishment imaginable for killing 150 children, but Americans are NOT guilty of the genocide of abortion, killing one million unborn yearly in the U.S and calling it choice.

If you want to run off to the mountains and spend the rest of your life in a commune worshiping the Great Celestial Marshmallow and the Seven Virginal Gherkins you go right ahead, if someone in your commune commits a crime, whether in the name of the Marshmallow or not, that person, and that person alone, will be arrested and tried for a crime. If the commune did not participate in the crime, they will not be prosecuted, nor found guilty by association.

THAT'S how we do things in the U.S.

[Lord Nelson]

The Koran explicitly depicts non-Moslems as submuman. What more is there to say?

As far as Moslems claiming that the Holy Warriors are the minority - I just don't believe them. They refuse to acknowledge that Islamic states are exporting fighters into Iraq. The majority of mosques in S Arabia, Yemen, and the Sudan advocate Holy War.

[Luis Gonzalez]

"The majority of mosques in S Arabia, Yemen, and the Sudan advocate Holy War."

The majority of Muslims do not live in Saudi Arabia, Yemen, or the Sudan.

[FreeReign]

we can do two things 1 Give support too those who are trying to reform Islam. 2 Open the consecration camps and start dropping nukes.

Islam has just begun to reform.

Choice #1 does beat trying to guiding those nuke missiles toward 1 billion Muslims while not hitting any non-Muslims.

Picture India for instance.

[Lancelot Jones]

"Offing the Jihadist's family is the only language Mohammedans understand."

There is no honor in butchery.

Beauseant!

[FreeReign]

Post #56, silversky:Well said. Don't expect the apologists of child murder to agree with you.

Post #57, dennisw:These family members (clan, relatives) are PRECISELY the ones who should be liquidated to pay for the murder of 150 Russian children

[silversky]

The majority of Muslims do not live in Saudi Arabia, Yemen, or the Sudan.

It's beside the point. It's not about where the majority lives, but whom they followAnd since the center of Islam has been hijacked by radicals, the rest will soon follow. See, as of today, Saudi Arabia Wahhabis decide what is "true" Islam and what isn't. How can good Muslims tolerate evil people ruling them? It's like Hitler becoming a Pope!!! Do you understand? When I see all Muslims out on the street, asking for "regime change" in SA, then I'll recognize Islam as a religion. Until then it's a political cover for conquest and terrorism.

[Valin]

Hey now. Watch it that kind of talk will get in trouble with the nuke Mecca crowd.

[Valin]

followAnd since the center of Islam has been hijacked by radicals, the rest will soon follow.

Riiiight.

[Lord Nelson]

Right.

But let's be clear here. The deceivers claim that Islam is fighting crusaders. That is absolutely false. The West is not a CHRISTIAN culture. Especially not Europe. Which is strange that Islam is at odds with America. If anything Europe is the bastion of immorality and sexual deviancy. Islam is fighting against secular culture - which divides state from religion and the legal system, and allows for freedom of association (except for liberals that are trying to destroy it).

And lets be clear about the Crusades. I am willing to concede that the Crusades were misguided - especially since Catholics killed as many Orthodox Christians as they did Moslems. But the Islamic threat was real. Thank God for Charles Martel for stopping Islam in Spain. And centuries later for the defenders of Vienna that stopped the Turkish horde at the gates. If you believe liberals, Islam was an innocent victim of Christian oppression. Like Bolshevism, Islam was from the start, and internationalist movement. Meaning all men must become Moslems or submit to their rule.

[American in Israel]

Do you think they perceive the wrath of the Russian population coming down on them ?

Of course. Arafat always condemns terrorist attacks, after he sends them out to attack. The Muslims know we crave peace, so they use the carrot and the stick, over and over and over and over...

Muslims kill about 250 people a day in the name of Allah, sometimes many more, rarely any less. As more and more of them take heart in the loot presented by the oil in Sudan, the land of Israel, the cash payments by the UN and the EU and the US trying to find a peaceful solution, more and more of them will become "radical" or simply devout Muslim's.

Islam teaches to lie, kill and loot for the glory of Islam. So anyone who is a Muslim is a liar, a killer and a thief in the making.

One can be born an Arab, but to be a Muslim you have to choose to be so. You can not generalize that all Arabs are killers, but you can clearly state that all Muslims worship killing, and are killers in the making, going to killer classes. Because of that, you can also say that all Muslims are killers. Political Correctness will not save your neck from the sword at the feet of a Muslim. World War III has started, pretending that it has not will not make it go away.

A wise man sees trouble far off and gets out of the way, while a fool walks on and blunders into trouble.

[American in Israel]

When the attacks begin in earnest, I guess I told you so will be an empty victory. I deliberatly chose to quote the Qur'ran without commentary as the test speaks for itself. These are the high ideals of Islam, to kill the infidel, to steal his women, and to enslave his children. This is not religon, it is corruption pretending to be religion. Yes, Living where Islam is in its Jihad phase tends to open ones eyes somewhat. But the attack on the United States of America should have the same affect on those living there. Too many work hard to put the sheep back to sleep, to say Islam is what it is not. So to find out what Islam was I opened their own books.

Islam is nothing but justification of criminal activity, a way to raise an army of depraved men to make plunder and conquest with. Imagine the concept of tythe of a percentage of your money to support a church changed to a tythe of a percentage of your plunder in exchange for the justification of slaughter. A religion for pirates, written by a caravan raider. This is not my take, this is Islams history.