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1 posted on 09/09/2004 4:15:12 PM PDT by Thanatos

*snicker*

The house of cards are falling down...and blowing in the wind..........

2 posted on 09/09/2004 4:17:03 PM PDT by arbee4bush ( I expressed myself forcefully and felt better after I did it-VP Cheney)

Another problem with internal evidence:

http://www.nationalreview.com/kerry/kerry200409091911.asp

3 posted on 09/09/2004 4:17:09 PM PDT by ScottFromSpokane (Re-elect President Bush: http://spokanegop.org/bush.html)

Man these guys will stop at nothing. Do you think Kerry has promised "Dan Ratter" a post in his administration? These new democrats are bad news.

4 posted on 09/09/2004 4:17:45 PM PDT by kcinnh

It is not enough for CBS to state that they stand by their story and fail to respond to the specific concerns raised. So long as they fail to indicate their source of the documents, and explain the technical discrepancies, one has to provisionally assume the worst.

5 posted on 09/09/2004 4:17:56 PM PDT by thucydides

Developing Brief Partial Summary of the Forgery Elements of the CBS/Rather Faked letter
Insightful Comments Made by FReepers
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1-- proportional spacing not generally available
2 -- superscripts not generally available
3 - "th" single element not generally available
4 - Smart quotes. Curved apostrophes and quotation marks were not available
5-The blurriness of the copy indicates it was recopied dozens of times, tactic of forgers
6--Signature block. Typical authentic military signature block has name, then rank, then on the next line the person's position. This just has rank beneath the name.
7--Margins. These look like a computer's unjustified default, not the way a person typing would have done it.
8 -- Date usually with three letters, or in form as 110471.
9 - words run over consistent with word processor
10 - may be a Times Roman or similar font not generally available then (per Haas Atlas)
11 - signature looks faked
12 - no errors and whiteout
13 - no letterhead
14 - exact match for Microsoft Word Processor
15 - Paper size problem, Air Force and Guard did not use 8 1/2 x 11 inch paper until the 1980s.
16 - Overlap analysis is an exact match
17 - absence of hyphens to split words between lines, c/w 1970's typewriter.
18 - 5000 Longmont #8 in Houston Tx. does not exist
19 - Box 34567 is suspicious, at best
20 - it would have been nearly impossible to center a letterhead with proportional spacing without a computer.
21 - Bush's grade would "normally" be abbreviated "1Lt" not "1st Lt"
22 - Subject matter bizarre
23 - Air Force did not use street addresses for their offices, rather HQ AFLC/CC, Wright-Patterson AFB, OH 45433.

7 posted on 09/09/2004 4:19:49 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Cuius rei demonstrationem mirabilem sane detexi hanc marginis exiguitas non caperet.)

Is this the "eating their own" part we all hoped would happen?

11 posted on 09/09/2004 4:20:14 PM PDT by dagar

The White House distributed the four memos from 1972 and 1973 after obtaining them from CBS News. The White House did not question their accuracy.

Yes they did, inside. This is Rove at his best. Release 'em, they're fake and it will be found out. Man that guy has this game down to an art!

16 posted on 09/09/2004 4:22:37 PM PDT by chesty_puller (USMC 2D Combined Action Group Viet Nam 70-71)

Sorry folks but the verbage in the unsigned memo was not written by a senior military officer.
1. Lingo not used by military
2. Not signed or initialed
3. Not in any format that any military person would use

It's a phoney and will be discovered as such.

17 posted on 09/09/2004 4:23:52 PM PDT by conshack

Source URL not working for me - old? Did they spike it?

23 posted on 09/09/2004 4:27:54 PM PDT by talleyman (Proud graduate, Attila the Hun School of Diplomacy)

You gotta love this.

24 posted on 09/09/2004 4:27:57 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (God bless Senator Zell Miller.)

CBS stood by its reporting. "As a standard practice at CBS, each of the documents broadcast on "60 Minutes" was thoroughly investigated by independent experts and we are convinced of their authenticity," CBS News said in a statement.

If that is true then why didn't at least the superscript catch the experts attention?

As usual, CBS will stand by its story up to the last minute.

28 posted on 09/09/2004 4:30:25 PM PDT by The Bandit

The White House did not question their accuracy.

And why would they........they could have no idea what was in Killian's personal files.

29 posted on 09/09/2004 4:30:58 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)

30 posted on 09/09/2004 4:31:10 PM PDT by stinkerpot65

39 posted on 09/09/2004 4:37:44 PM PDT by snooker

What did Dan Rather know, and when did he know it?

54 posted on 09/09/2004 4:51:55 PM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)

Corrupt Broadcasting Company

59 posted on 09/09/2004 4:56:30 PM PDT by aculeus

The White House did not question their accuracy.

Nor did the White House question their inaccuracy.

66 posted on 09/09/2004 5:04:03 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (If you decide to kick the tiger in the ass...you'd better be prepared to deal with the teeth.)

The White House distributed the four memos from 1972 and 1973 after obtaining them from CBS News. The White House did not question their accuracy.

Snicker....WH: "Shooting yourself in the foot? Here, let me help you with your ammo."

78 posted on 09/09/2004 5:39:46 PM PDT by citizen (Write-in Tom Tancredo for President/Jeff Flake VP 2004!)

The Clintonistas job is to DESTROY Kerry, and they are doing a FINE job!

79 posted on 09/09/2004 5:41:38 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)

Updated AP story here.

86 posted on 09/09/2004 6:11:47 PM PDT by TexasNative2000 (When it's all said and done, someone starts another conversation.......)

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