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Conclusive the proof that they are forgeries: MECHANICAL TYPEWRITERS DON'T AUTO-CENTER ADDRESS BLOCKS!!!
1 posted on 09/09/2004 3:47:34 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist

Tell it to the President of CBS News, Andrew Heyward.

Andrew Heyward -- CBS News
Title: President
Department: Headquarters
Phone: (212) 975-4321
Fax: (212) 975-1893
Address: 524 W 57th St, New York, NY 10019

FAX him. Load his desk tomorrow morning. My FAX is already there.

I basically asked him if he was satisfied having his reputation dependent on Dan Rather and the folks at 60 Minutes.


169 posted on 09/09/2004 5:47:24 PM PDT by jackbill
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IBM did have a special typesetting machine, the IBM Composer, which WOULD automatically center type if you typed it twice.
http://www.ibmcomposer.org/

I used to use one at work, but I was a professional printer from 1975-1983. It was a bear to use.

Was Killian a professional typesetter? Maybe he used such a machine at work for these memos.

Otherwise, I can't explain why he would have used it.

Nor can I explain why the type lines up exactly like 12 point Times New Roman using Word set to default formatting.


181 posted on 09/09/2004 6:30:03 PM PDT by CobaltBlue
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Don't know if its conclusive, but I'm convinced. I've been telling people all day that the document isn't justified and therefore wasn't difficult to produce on a typewriter. The centering function would be nearly impossible to replicate with a 1972 typewriter. My hat's off to you.


183 posted on 09/09/2004 6:31:48 PM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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To: GOPcapitalist

Good work!


197 posted on 09/09/2004 6:53:35 PM PDT by Ciexyz ("FR, best viewed with a budgie on hand")
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"Conclusive the proof that they are forgeries: MECHANICAL TYPEWRITERS DON'T AUTO-CENTER ADDRESS BLOCKS!!! "

Boy, don't I know that for a fact. I can still remember 42 years ago when I first took typing in highschool, we had to learn how to center things on the page before we typed it. We had to count the number of letters in the line, then divide it by two. Then we had to count back that amount with the backspace key, starting from the "0" margin in the middle, in order to find our beginning point. Talk about a pain in the rump!

198 posted on 09/09/2004 6:55:52 PM PDT by mass55th ( “Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings.”)
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That's freepin'sure right!!! We had to manually count to center the type. What a bunch of freakin' bastard leftists always lookin' to screw the truth. That's all they got.

Well, this time the screw ain't turnin' their way. Never again. Never forget. These bastards are a bunch of commie lovin' useful idiots from the day they were born. What they did to turn America against the Viet Nam vets and now our President will never be allowed to happen again.

It's a new age in the press and the old hairy hippie fogies of the 60's may be thinkin' they are havin' a revival, but all they are havin' is their last pathetic collapse.

206 posted on 09/09/2004 7:07:30 PM PDT by harpo11 (Go Team BUSH--Nothing will hold us back--Terminate Terrorists and free the world of hell's vermin!)
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NEWLAND WIRE SERVICES
Dan Rather has dismissed the significance of the proven forgery of documents that were used by him on 60 Minutes regarding George Bush' National Guard service records in 1972.

"I have read the minds of all those who were involved...so I know what is really true. I have also personally witnessed a seance where those who are no longer alive have come back to report the truth about Bush."

How dare you question me and 60 Minutes!

Men in white jackets were seen entering Rather's lavish dressing room at CBS as we completed our interview. Minutes later, Rather was removed from the room clinging to a 1972 IBM Selectric typewriter, screaming..."from my cold, dead hands you will!"

208 posted on 09/09/2004 7:11:37 PM PDT by NewLand (John Kerry; you may begin writing your concession speech now!)
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When is the line crossed into libel??? I swear, I wish Bush would sue CBS. He would win. No doubt because a case can be made that he knew they were false or at least should have known.

John


209 posted on 09/09/2004 7:13:00 PM PDT by John_7Diamonds
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This whole story was planted to the media. I wouldn't be the least bit suprised if the Clintons did it to scuttle Kerrys campaign. It's just too coincidental that it broke right when Kerry replaced the campaign staff with Clinton hatchet men


221 posted on 09/09/2004 7:26:17 PM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: GOPcapitalist

PING


229 posted on 09/09/2004 7:52:55 PM PDT by chaosagent (It's all right to be crazy. Just don't let it drive you nuts.)
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To: GOPcapitalist
Hello!

Listen, I was in the REAL U. S. Air Force in the early 1990's, and spent time (and have LOTS of documentation from) three bases in Air Force bases in Texas: Lackland, Laughlin and Randolph.

I have letters from squadron commanders, wing commanders, and base commanders. EVERY SINGLE DOCUMENT is either an Air Force form or on base/squadron letterhead. No one ever TYPES THE NAME AND ADDRESS OF THE SQUADRON on a letter or memo!!!! Not even in the the 1970's. Not even in the ANG. And there are no such thing as "unsigned" memos.

P.O. BOX

34567????

Puh-lease! If that isn't a huge red-flag saying "I'M A LOW-GRADE FORGERY" I don't know what is! Five squential numbers! A P.O. BOX!!!!

Any Freeper's out there serve who served in the air guard have a P.O. BOX as their squadron's address????

ALSO...

Every single piece of paper I have, form or letter, was done in a fix-spaced font...either courier or OCR or something arial like. I don't have anything in my collection of documents that uses a proportationally spaced Times Roman font...not from any Air Force Base I spent time at...not from any officer. And this is in the early 90's.

Some doc's I have were printed on the base's mainframe line printer, and it looks it...

These CBS documents are such incredibly obvious forgeries I'm shocked they even bothered to post them.

No doubt in my mind that the CBS idiots created these on their office PC's. Either that, or they came from Ragin' Cajun's word processor directly to Dan Rather. No self-respecting forger would pass something off that bad.

234 posted on 09/09/2004 8:53:34 PM PDT by Ronzo (GOD alone is enough.)
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MECHANICAL TYPEWRITERS DON'T AUTO-CENTER ADDRESS BLOCKS!!!

No, but my eight-grade typing teacher did. And, by the end of the semester, so did I.

(You simply count the spaces -- conclusive proof you've never used a typewriter.)

235 posted on 09/09/2004 8:57:48 PM PDT by kevao
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It looks like it could almost be thought of as a "fingerprint."


244 posted on 09/09/2004 10:31:38 PM PDT by RobRoy (You only "know" what you experience. Everything else is mere belief.)
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I also noticed that most of the dots on the paper are exactly the same...like someone cloned the same dot all over....


245 posted on 09/09/2004 10:36:50 PM PDT by sonserae
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bttt


251 posted on 09/09/2004 10:46:21 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Comrade Hillary - 6/28/04)
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To: GOPcapitalist
You are right on the mark!

Dan Rather and CBS have few options to retain any sort of credibility. They need to produce the "original" documents for independent, expert verification. The need to name their "experts" who provided the stamp of approval over the six weeks they were working on the story.

If the documents are indeed a fraud, then Rather and CBS have another obligation. Is is customary for a report to "protect" a source if naming the source might cause some potential harm. I don't see how this could be the case. An unnamed source is unjustified, even if the documents are credible. However, if the source provides fraudulent information or lies about the information in the story, the reporter is under no obligation to protect the source. Rather and CBS should name the source as soon as the documents are proved, by the preponderance of the evidence, to be fakes.

Dan Rather - WHO GAVE YOU THESE FORGED DOCUMENTS? WHO PLANTED THIS FAKE STORY?

252 posted on 09/09/2004 10:55:21 PM PDT by capitan_refugio
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YESSSSS, now I remember.. I used a selectric typewriter in the army my last couple of months and I recall how freaking irritating it was to try and center text. You actually had to figure out the spacing because some letters took up half a space. We always used to just guesstimate and we were never truly centered.


262 posted on 09/10/2004 12:40:37 AM PDT by Casloy (qs)
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