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To: wyattearp

you are almost right. the terrorists use these teachings to convert anger into action. by saying it is the will of god, they are able to do inhuman things. by just giving up and saying ALL of islam is like this, you are giving the terrorists a victory.

why?

because they want the whole of islam to follow thier intepretation. look at how many interpretations of christianity there is. islam itself is fractured into groups which dont necesarily even like each other. while we might think they are all the same, not so long ago the iranians saw the taliban as dangerous and extremist. sunnis and shiites arent always buddies. saying ALL of islam doesnt even begin to comprehend the complexity of the situation -and as i said it helps the terrorists who are desperately driving for:
a) more converts; and
b) a jihad with the non-muslim world.

this is their two-pronged attack, and driving a wedge between the west and moderate muslims is exactly how this is done. you think moderate chcen voices stand ANY chance of being heard now? the russians will listen to NOTHING. one step closer to the war the captured guy stated they wanted AND those moderates are now further from those they would want peace with than ever. in fact the only people close to them now... well its the terrorists i guess.

see how that works? the terrorists dont just hate our freedom or something, they have a plan. there IS a plot and there is a far greater danger than many here realise because they want to lump ALL muslims together. this is exactly what our enemy wants us to do.


20 posted on 09/07/2004 9:59:53 PM PDT by sweneop
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To: sweneop

"because they want the whole of islam to follow thier intepretation. look at how many interpretations of christianity there is. islam itself is fractured into groups which dont necesarily even like each other. while we might think they are all the same, not so long ago the iranians saw the taliban as dangerous and extremist. sunnis and shiites arent always buddies."

The evidence from this attack indicates that it is NOT one faction, but a collaboration of numerous factions, ALL ISLAMIC.

Name ONE faction of christianity that would do something even remotely like this.


23 posted on 09/07/2004 10:12:01 PM PDT by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: sweneop

Know thy enemy. You should try reading the Koran. You really should. I mean, YOU REALLY SHOULD. The full text is online. There are a lot of them available. Go to Google and type in Koran. Pick one. Here's one of them.

http://www.hti.umich.edu/k/koran/


29 posted on 09/07/2004 10:30:08 PM PDT by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: sweneop
Are you trying to tell us that there are Muslims who do not believe this:


[9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

[9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!

If there are Muslims with holes in their Korans at this point, then I will agree with you. Otherwise, you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
53 posted on 09/08/2004 3:23:57 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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