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Giving up the ghosts
Boston Globe ^ | September 5, 2004 | By Lisa Kocian, Globe Staff

Posted on 09/06/2004 8:15:32 AM PDT by CurlyBill

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To: Condor51

Thanks I'm looking forward to even more specifics from you. It should be as intresting for you to write all these things down as it will be for us to hear them.


21 posted on 09/06/2004 11:54:07 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: CurlyBill
Ghosts for Kerry? Voting soon in a precinct near you?
22 posted on 09/06/2004 12:57:02 PM PDT by goldfinch
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Ghosts for Kerry? Voting soon in a precinct near you?

Yeah, that's what scares me more than anything. These lefties will do anything to steal this. They oppose any effort to make sure that only registered folks vote. Each year, I'm convinced that many many votes are cast by illegal aliens, convicted felons, dead people, people who are infirmed, dead people, people who have moved and just about any other form of voter fraud. I'm also convinced that 99.9% of these are votes for the Democrat regardless of the office.

23 posted on 09/06/2004 1:35:45 PM PDT by CurlyBill (John Kerry is PeeWee Herman in a Frankenstein costume)
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To: CurlyBill

I love ghost stories... please add me to your ping list!


24 posted on 09/06/2004 2:58:32 PM PDT by William Martel (Anyone But Kerry in 2004.)
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To: CurlyBill

Voter fraud is an issue that needs to be tackled after this election. The best solution would be a national system...but that will cause the folks opposed to a national id card to go nuts. Requiring an id at the state level is a start but it will not stop situations like the 68,000 people registered in both Florida and New York, who could easily vote absentee in one location and in person in the other.


25 posted on 09/06/2004 3:41:59 PM PDT by goldfinch
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To: Condor51

Yes, you will have to write these up!


26 posted on 09/06/2004 4:03:05 PM PDT by Alia
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To: William Martel

Done!


27 posted on 09/06/2004 4:08:19 PM PDT by CurlyBill (John Kerry is PeeWee Herman in a Frankenstein costume)
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To: CurlyBill
When I was a girl, I had an interesting experience. My dad was away on a business trip. I was awakened out of a sound sleep by a menacing presence in the hall to my room. My parent's room was at the other end of that hallway. I could almost see the presence; I most certainly could feel it. I grabbed my sewing shears up and went into the hallway just in time to hear my mother gasping from her bedroom. I woke her. She was utterly terrified. Said there'd been a man there with his hands around her neck, choking her. Caveat: I have this big thing about being intimidated; even bigger about loved ones being bullied or intimidated. I don't like it; so I confront it. Always been this way. Muleheaded is another word for it, I suppose.

Anyway, my mom and I talked about the presence. We had near identical physical descriptions of the presence. Amazing? It was an Indian character, as in Native American. She and I were able to piece out "why" this "apparition". Did our research. No, we didn't do a "save the Miwok" ceremony. We hung up horsehoes. :) And I made a noose, hung it, in case the presence dared to return to hurt or bother us again. And, I was at the particular age of puberty when "presences" tend to appear in households with pubescent teens.

28 posted on 09/06/2004 4:16:15 PM PDT by Alia
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To: Alia

Great story. Was this the one & only time there was a presence in your home?


29 posted on 09/06/2004 7:57:06 PM PDT by Ditter
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Actually, no. I had two events (prior to this one last incident of "visitation") of perceiving a menacing presence in my bedroom with me during the night; being awakened by these. I awakened, paralyzed with fear, or cognition. I could almost see this presence. Right close by to me.

In both events, once I mustered my furious outrage at being "intimidated" and moved to deal with the presence, it always vanished. That incident involving my mom was the last time I was bothered by a "presence."

There've been numerous analysis done by "experts" on the subject of pubescent(teen) girls experiencing such "visitations". Stories which underlay flicks like "The Crucible" (involving) young girls -- are more fodder for this specifically peculiar event. Usually having to do with major reproductive hormones being active in the girls' bodies. I've studied both medical and non-medical analyses of these "presences" in re teen girls. The reportings of "presences" and teen girls is not uncommon throughout history.

I've also studied numerous psychologic analyses on the subject: That psychologically, the subbrain is registering strong hormonal activity within the body and projecting a (new or menacing presence) to the sleeper.

30 posted on 09/07/2004 3:41:19 AM PDT by Alia
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So you are saying the presence is not a spirit? Then in your opinion what is it? If you were dreaming I can see waking up frightened but what had your mother by the throat?


31 posted on 09/07/2004 6:52:32 PM PDT by Ditter
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What you are asking are both very good, solid questions. I can take the rational choice, and logically explain both questions. I can also simply assert there was a spirit. I get to decide. You do too. It's the nature of psi exploration -- to not only pay attention to the logical and rational; but to not deny the illogical. If it had happened again, more regularly, that's when it is worthwhile to get some heavy duty monitoring equipment into place -- to measure waves, temps, etc --which then begins the process of leaning the answer to one side or another, of which of course, other considerations must be evaluated.


32 posted on 09/07/2004 7:11:15 PM PDT by Alia
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To: CurlyBill

Thanks for the ping. Finally, something worth watching on the Sci-Fi channel.


33 posted on 09/07/2004 9:47:36 PM PDT by lara
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