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Speech vaults Rudy to front of '08 field
New York Daily News ^ | 9/06/04 | LISA L. COLANGELO

Posted on 09/06/2004 1:33:13 AM PDT by kattracks

Forget about President Bush - former Mayor Rudy Giuliani may be getting the biggest bounce from the Republican National Convention.

A new Newsweek poll showed 50% of registered voters want Giuliani to run for President in 2008. Those numbers are even higher - 65% - among Republican voters.

That places Giuliani ahead of Arizona Sen. John McCain's 48%, California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's 22% - and light-years ahead of Gov. Pataki's 15%.

Pataki, who introduced Bush on Thursday and also has been mentioned as a possible presidential contender in 2008, actually saw his numbers drop to 13% among Republican voters.

Giuliani declined yesterday to talk about any political plans during several interviews, saying he was concentrating on getting Bush reelected.

"The race for the presidency four years from now is so far away, I'm not thinking about it; I'm not running against anybody," Giuliani said during an interview on "Fox News Sunday." "Right now, there's only one race ...

"And, you know, Arnold Schwarzenegger's doing a great job as governor of California, and John McCain is one of my heroes. So I don't want to be in any kind of contest with them," Giuliani said.

Giuliani's speech the first night of the convention drew raves from delegates from around the country. McCain and Schwarzenegger - Austrian-born and barred by the Constitution from being President - also made high-profile speeches during last week's GOP fest at Madison Square Garden.

Asked if Giuliani's speech made them more likely to vote for Bush, 24% of voters polled said yes, while 33% said it did not make a difference. Some 8% said it made them less likely to reelect the President. The rest either had no opinion or did not see the speech. The poll of 1,008 registered voters was conducted Thursday and Friday.

Originally published on September 6, 2004



TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; giuliani; rino; rncconvention; rudy
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To: Chunga
If Rudy won the Republican nomination after a fair primary fight and social conservatives refused to support him, voting for a third-party candidate and leading to a Hillary Clinton victory, social conservatives will be responsible for Hillary's election.

You really don't get it. The "lesser of two evils" thing ain't going to work. If Hillary gets elected it'd be because the GOP ran an anti-Christian candidate. Big tent implosion time.

41 posted on 09/07/2004 10:02:13 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: Chunga
The issue of abortion will not be decided at the executive level of government

but it can and has been settled at the judical level and who appoints supreme court judges?

42 posted on 09/07/2004 10:12:13 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Graybeard - Illinois resident - Keyes voter)
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To: Graybeard58

Apparently Hillary Clinton, if Giuliani is the alternative.


43 posted on 09/07/2004 10:16:15 PM PDT by Chunga
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To: kattracks
I thought Rudy did OK, a little bland in spots.

Zell MIller gave the knockout speech of the convention. Maybe he can run in 2008?

44 posted on 09/07/2004 10:20:11 PM PDT by Dick Holmes
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To: kattracks

He might make VP but you have to be pro-life and be faithful to your spouse to make it to the front of the
line. Sorry liberal press but 65% of the Republicans is not enough.


45 posted on 09/07/2004 10:26:37 PM PDT by Brimack34
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

No true conservative will ever enable socialists like Hillary Clinton to be elected.


46 posted on 09/07/2004 10:46:26 PM PDT by Chunga
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To: familyop

"Giuliani is pro-abortion and against the Marriage Amendment."

Bump!


47 posted on 09/07/2004 11:01:59 PM PDT by TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl
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To: Chunga
No true conservative will ever enable socialists like Hillary Clinton to be elected.

You can Christian conservatives every name in the book, you threaten to blame us like Hitler blamed the Jews for the loss of WW-I, and you can fantasize all you want about the pro-death pro-sodomy Guliani. We answer to a higher authority.

48 posted on 09/07/2004 11:17:46 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
The "pro-death, pro-sodomy Giuliani" you reference stood on the stage in New York and declared to the world "Thank God George Bush is President."

He's supporting and campaigning with Bush, a God-fearing, pro-life, born-again Christian who is thankful for the support of the man you're besmirching with rhetorical epithets.

Do you support George W. Bush?

He's named a pro-choice guy as the head of Homeland Security, a pro-choice woman as head of the EPA, a pro-choice guy as Secretary Of State and his Vice President disagrees with him on the issue of same-sex marriage. Of course, Bush didn't dump Cheney for his beliefs, because he realizes Cheney's value.

One- or two-issue social conservatives are going to get atrocities like Hillary elected one day. I am pro-life and I see the necessity of keeping socialist scum out of the White House at all costs.

It's too bad so many of my brethren suffer from such extreme myopia and are afflicted with such a dearth of cunning. They'll wind up handing this country over to the one-worlders, who will never give it back.

49 posted on 09/08/2004 12:13:21 AM PDT by Chunga
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To: kattracks

PLEASE stop posting this train wreck in the making!

Guiliani the gun grabber can kiss my "SHAVING CREAM, NICE AND CLEAN".

I will make a public promise, right now, that i will NEVER vote for that "SHAVING CREAM, NICE AND CLEAN" no matter WHO is running against him!

A vote for that "SHAVING CREAM, NICE AND CLEAN" RINO would be no different than a vote for Hitlery of Chucky Scheemer!

Who are all these shallow fair weather "republicans" who are falling for this "SHAVING CREAM, NICE AND CLEAN"?

*"SHAVING CREAM, NICE AND CLEAN", substituted for the plain language I would prefer, but which is not PG rated and would probably get me banned ;-)


50 posted on 09/08/2004 12:22:19 AM PDT by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: garylmoore

You got it!


51 posted on 09/08/2004 12:24:42 AM PDT by Lurking2Long
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To: West Coast Conservative

Wouldn't trust him if he DID change his views on abortion...he would just change back once he became President...


52 posted on 09/08/2004 12:25:53 AM PDT by Lurking2Long
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To: Chunga
It's too bad so many of my brethren suffer from such extreme myopia and are afflicted with such a dearth of cunning.

No pro baby killing pro homo candidate gets my vote ever. I don't see Ralph Reed, Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, James Dobson, Gary Bauer, Phylis Schlafly, Alan Keyes, etc. etc. making that Satan's sale either in 2008. And the gun grabbing thing ain't going to fly with the second largest GOP voting block either. It's you that's suffering from myopia or fan bois mania. You don't even know what the hell Guliani stands for. He's uhh really popular uhh... and he supports Bush... and uhhh...liberals love him... and he can beat Hitlery... uhhh Yeah sounds like a brilliant plan.

53 posted on 09/08/2004 12:55:35 AM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: Chunga

And another thing... shove that "true conservative" crap up your rear end. Anyone for Guliani definately comes from the shallow end of the Conservative pool.


54 posted on 09/08/2004 12:59:07 AM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: kattracks
Speech vaults Rudy to front of '08 field


55 posted on 09/08/2004 1:04:09 AM PDT by Rastus (Forget it, Moby! I'm voting for Bush!)
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To: Chunga

How does Rudy Giuliani vote for abortion?

I don't know if you were serious but any politician that is pro-choice affects the outcome somewhere along the line, now does that make sense to you? And besides, I can hardly trust anyone that says that he believes in something that he says he doesn't. (figure that one out)


56 posted on 09/08/2004 1:14:07 AM PDT by garylmoore (Repeat: They made a mistake, they didn't count of George W. Bush.)
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To: Chunga

How does Rudy Giuliani vote for abortion?

I don't know if you were serious but any politician that is pro-choice affects the outcome somewhere along the line, now does that make sense to you? And besides, I can hardly trust anyone that says that he believes in something that he says he doesn't. (figure that one out)


57 posted on 09/08/2004 1:14:08 AM PDT by garylmoore (Repeat: They made a mistake, they didn't count of George W. Bush.)
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
"And another thing...shove that "true conservative" crap up your rear end."

I had thought that employing sodomy metaphors was beneath your dignity; but since you're advocating it, you seem to have outed yourself as a bogus social conservative.

I never said I was for Giuliani. I said I'd support him over Hillary.

I prefer Jeb Bush.

It's best not to pop off before you have the facts..somebody might think you're an idiot.

58 posted on 09/08/2004 1:28:02 AM PDT by Chunga
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To: Dick Holmes
Zell MIller gave the knockout speech of the convention. Maybe he can run in 2008?

Zell will be 76 years old in '08. Not impossible but he says he's retiring to spend time with his family. I believe him.

59 posted on 09/08/2004 5:33:04 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Graybeard - Illinois resident - Keyes voter)
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