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1 posted on 09/05/2004 11:58:27 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah; GatorGirl; maryz; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; Askel5; ...

It is time for the Pope to declare a new Crusade. There is no more questions as to who the enemy is or what must be done. We must bring the Love of Christ to the tormented, satanic islamofascisti, if needed with the full weight of western arms and armor behind us.


173 posted on 09/05/2004 1:12:51 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

There has been very scant coverage of this tragedy. The horror grows with each report and Old Media in this country is mum.


176 posted on 09/05/2004 1:13:54 PM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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While despairing soldiers and rescue workers moved among the growing pile of body bags, it was revealed that an 18-month-old baby had been repeatedly stabbed by a black-clad terrorist who had run out of ammunition.

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Vile human rubbish. There is no other thing to say. This cancer must be cut out of the human body at large and disposed of. I can not even imagine in my wildest nightmares the stabbing of an 18 month old BABY!


178 posted on 09/05/2004 1:15:36 PM PDT by cupcakes
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Well, I think that the Geneva convention should not apply to treatment of terrorists in captivity. Since they aren't recognized as a nation and are thus not signatory to the Geneva treaty, we should modify that charter so that only recognized government parties can reap any of the humanitarian benefits. In that way, the victimized can target any governments/countries that commit these types of atrocities.

They saw how our citizenry went gah-gah over the relatively mild treatment of the prisoners at Abu Ghraib, and perceived us as weak. They know that the world will condemn us for that, while they go on torturing and murdering non-combatants.

The world community who are victims of the terrorist actions should renounce the Geneva Convention and put all terrorists on notice that they cannot rely on individual state/country's laws to provide them with humane treatment when they are captured.

That's the way to stop their atrocities in their tracks.

180 posted on 09/05/2004 1:17:13 PM PDT by Real Cynic No More
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

BTW, thanks for the post. I have no TV, I have avoided the threads on this subject, I have been hiding my head in the sand. I cannot do that anymore. Thanks.


181 posted on 09/05/2004 1:17:18 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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I'm afraid I thought the fact that the children were naked was chilling. People don't take their clothes off because they are hot.


230 posted on 09/05/2004 1:46:04 PM PDT by johnb838 (Islamists: monsters who are fed by the blood of children)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

Time to erradicate these DEMONS. Each and every one of them. No more delays!!!!


235 posted on 09/05/2004 1:49:20 PM PDT by ezfindit (OrthodoxNet.com - Shining the Light of Wisdom and Truth)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

Waste 'em and their clans and tribes.


246 posted on 09/05/2004 1:53:52 PM PDT by dennisw (Allah FUBAR!)
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Other survivors told how screaming teenage girls were dragged into
rooms adjoining the gymnasium where they were being held and
raped by their Chechen captors who chillingly made a video film of
their appalling exploits




and the film was sent to Putin..............


254 posted on 09/05/2004 1:58:42 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (On this day your Prayers are needed!!!!!!!)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

The left will scream outrage at Bush every day.
Yet there are is not one comparison to "Jengis" Khan from them on this.


264 posted on 09/05/2004 2:07:38 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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It can't happen here. Nobody is allowed to bring a gun to school, so this crime is impossible.


267 posted on 09/05/2004 2:09:57 PM PDT by gortklattu (check out thotline dot com)
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These are truly inhumane acts.

This is not a faith, these acts speak of a cult of violence.

These monsters were essentially performing human sacrifices for their faith.


277 posted on 09/05/2004 2:16:42 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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THEY KNIFED BABIES, THEY RAPED GIRLS
Sep 5 2004
SCHOOL SLAUGHTER: 323 DEAD, 434 HURT
By Euan Stretch Chief Reporter

THE full horror of the Russian school atrocity began to emerge yesterday as traumatised children told horrific tales of stabbed babies and brutal rapes.

It has also emerged that scores of the 323 who died - including many children - had been shot in the back.

While despairing soldiers and rescue workers moved among the growing pile of body bags, it was revealed that an 18-month-old baby had been repeatedly stabbed by a black-clad terrorist who had run out of ammunition.

Other survivors told how screaming teenage girls were dragged into rooms adjoining the gymnasium where they were being held and raped by their Chechen captors who chillingly made a video film of their appalling exploits

They said children were forced to drink their own urine and eat the petals off the flowers they had brought their teachers after nearly three days without food or water in the stifling hot gym.

Their stories came as Russian officials warned that the final death toll of the siege of Middle School No 1 at Beslan in North Ossetia - in which up to 1,200 people were held captive - was likely to be more than 400.

The official toll yesterday stood at 323 which included 156 children, 10 Russian soldiers and two emergency service workers - 35 of the hostage-takers were also killed. Last night 434 people were being treated in hospital with 247 children and 85 adults in a critical condition.

A Russian official said six seriously injured children had been taken to Moscow for treatment.

"One of them is a child, just 18 months old, with many knife wounds," he said.

The Chechen terrorists - including two so-called "Black Widows" - had been meticulously planning the hostage-taking for months.

High explosives and ammunition had been smuggled into the building during the summer by rebels disguised as workmen.

A shocking account of the siege has come from Indira Dzetskelova, the mother of 12-year-old Dzerase who was guarded by two women suicide bombers during the siege. She said: "On the first day they shot a man before my daughter's eyes. They frightened the kids by saying that water in the tap was poisoned.

"The famished children had to eat rose petals from bouquets which they specially bought for their teachers to mark the first day of term. Parents who were also captured had to feed their kids with all the window plants.

"After they ate all the petals, my daughter said that she started to nibble the rose plants.

"She told me that several 15-year-old girls were raped by terrorists. She heard their terrible cries and screams when those monsters took them away."

Her traumatised daughter Dzerase sobbed as she added: "When the assault started, some of us were running out through the school dining room.

"We had to run across and jump over dead bodies. Can I ever forget it? Is it possible that one day I will forget it?

"The terrorists started to shoot from the roof, then one of them ran into the dining room and started to shoot from the window.

"I saw kids and women falling to the ground. And I saw that vermin's face. I saw his smile as he killed my friends."

Diana Gadzhieva, 14, was held with her sister Akinba, aged 11. She told how the rebels executed all the adult men in a room upstairs and how she was forced to lie face down on the gym floor.

She said: "There was not enough space for us and we were lying on top of each other. The rebels needed paths to walk around the gym. They shouted they would shoot anyone whose arm or leg was across their paths.

"They also said they would kill anyone who looked up.

"We saw groups of men hostages going out and never coming back."

She also told of the moments when the bloody firefight started and how the rebels triggered a series of explosions inside the gym.

Diana said: "There was terrible panic and a few boys jumped out of the windows. My sister and I did not want to run out - we were scared of being shot.

"But then the second explosion happened and something heavy fell down on us. I saw children around me lying in blood and not moving.

"Just next to me there was a woman covered in blood. She was dead. I also saw many arms and legs, torn from bodies.

"All the bombs were connected with cords and started blowing up one after another, getting closer and closer to us.

"I took Alina's hand and we ran to the window and jumped out. We were running as quickly as possible - our backs were terribly hot from the fires."

Zalina Vazagova, 13, also told of the terrifying moment when a bomb exploded in the gym ceiling.

She explained: "I heard a terrible crack above my head and closed my eyes. When I opened them, I thought I was dead. There was so much blood around me.

"One granny was lying with a hole in her head. My PE teacher, Ivan Konstantinovich's body hit my leg.

"All the kids were crying, 'Please don't shoot! Please don't kill us'. But the rebels did not listen to us.

"Then I saw an open window and just jumped out. My little sister Lena was left inside there." And sobbing, she added: "I don't know if she's alive. She was only ten."

Survivors say the gymnasium and surrounding corridors had been rigged with at least 18 bombs, connected by cables and trip wires.

Two bombs were placed in the hoops of basketball nets and at either ends of the gymnasium.

A "Black Widow" is thought to have blown herself up in front of more than 1,000 hostages, prompting the deadly fire-fight and triggering a further serious of explosions inside the gymnasium.

At least three rebels were thought to have been captured alive in the school's basement - but were later said to have died.

One disguised herself as a teacher leading children to safety. She was apparently shot dead seconds before trying to blow herself up in a nearby hospital.

Another was apparently shot dead and beheaded by his comrades for trying to surrender.

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WE HAD TO DRINK OUR URINE

HOSTAGE Sima Albegova told how the Chechen rebels became angry when they heard President Vladimir Putin was not visiting the school.

Sima, a school cook, said: "The terrorists treated the kids well during first day, they did let them drink and go to toilet.

"But right after they found out that Putin was not coming, they forbade the kids from going to the toilet.

"We asked them, 'Why are you doing this to us?' They said it was because we voted for Putin.

"And they said he doesn't care about you. He won't even come here to talk to us."

By Friday morning conditions were so bad that people could hardly breathe.

She added: "Most of kids were almost unconsciousness. Those who could move started to pee into shoes and then drink urine.

"They would make several sips of urine and then would stop and cry because their lips were chapped and the urine stung their skin.

"I would run to the terrorists and asked them to let kids drink.

"They said, 'Go away, they'll survive'. But so many of them have not."

_________________

MY LITTLE BOY WAS LEFT TO DIE

A YOUNG mother told how she was released early with her two-month-old daughter - but her five-year-old son was forced to stay.

Salimat Suleimanova said: "I begged them on my knees to let me take Shamil out with me, but they wouldn't - now I don't know where he is.

"It was his first day at school."

She is overwhelmed by guilt for coming out with her baby daughter.

"They didn't allow me to go back and say goodbye to my little boy," she said.

She added: "So many children lay unconscious without food and water. Occasionally the rebels took those out, poured water onto their heads and threw them back."

285 posted on 09/05/2004 2:25:26 PM PDT by SlickWillard
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Meanwhile the Saudis and their proxies are greasing US politicans and their lobby groups whine endlessly about their 'rights'

And our leaders promote the building of mosques and Islamic Centers in communities that have NO appreciable numbers of Muslims....they are preparing areas for an influx of Muslims

They buy up large tracts of rurual US land for their Muslim "summer camps'

Everytime we fill up our vehicles...we arm another Muslim terrorist and send another muslim youngster to his Suadi Immam for indoctrination....in the blood lust cult of Islam...


IMO


296 posted on 09/05/2004 2:31:43 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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Wow. That sounds like what John Kerry claims to have done in Vietnam.

Has anybody else noticed that John Kerry hasn't denounced the attacks? Sick bastard.


319 posted on 09/05/2004 2:45:25 PM PDT by KillBill
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So, we begin to see the full horror of what happened in Russia. The torture. The abuse. The rape. The willful, planned, brutal murders.

It was done by mo-slimes. Even the mo-slimes acknowledge that simple fact!

When will we act? When will we rescue our children, and children everywhere from these vile monsters?

In WWII, civilization reviled the Nazis. People didn't say that "Oh, we must be tolerant." or "Oh, it's just a different belief." Nazism was destroyed. It was burned, bombed, and hanged.

There are those who speak of "good mo-slimes." Be aware that there were Nazis who paid their bills, were faithful to their wives, and were pleasant with the neighbors. They were still removed from power, their beliefs were discredited and outlawed, and many of them - rightly! - paid a price for their beliefs.

When will we take similar action against a group that is, in my opinion, more vicious and hateful than the Nazis? Or did these children suffer and die in vain?

327 posted on 09/05/2004 2:49:16 PM PDT by neutrino (Globalization “is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.” (173))
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It's Time
335 posted on 09/05/2004 2:57:56 PM PDT by Shaun_MD ("How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb")
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This might have changed over the last year or so but, as of the last I heard about a year ago, our A$$#ole state departmemnt was still broadcasting messages of encouragement to these barbarians in chechen language. The obvious message to Russia was/is that our terrorists are terrorists and theirs are "freedom fighters".

Somebody needs to read the riot act to the state department if it hasn't already been done.

349 posted on 09/05/2004 3:12:31 PM PDT by judywillow
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It is time for Chechnya to feel the wrath of God. And by "wrath of God" I meant to say 3 Soviet tactical nuclear weapons.


350 posted on 09/05/2004 3:15:34 PM PDT by dwaynestomp
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Each new news article is more horrific than the previous, I know I've said it before, but this, this is just the most depravity I've heard yet on it. I cringe with each new story. The world should be appalled, but it's clear from these many threads that most of us have heard so-called humans attempt to explain or excuse the behaviors of these terrorist animals. My prayers and condolences go out to the victims and survivors and their families.


359 posted on 09/05/2004 3:21:19 PM PDT by fortunecookie (My grandparents didn't flee communism so that I could live in Kerry's Kommune.)
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