[Tacis]

Please do not show this to any member of the neocommunist, ultra-left wing media. I'd hate to hand them a shot at the Pulitzer Prize for Investigative Reporting when, I know, they, in their legions, are about to investigate and write about women not being involved with the Masters Golf Tournament in Georgia.

And, if you have the text of “BUPERSMAN 3830300,” please shout out and share.

Note that Monday, 9/6/04 is a holiday and DoJ offices should be closed to the public.

[cajungirl]

You may have it,,good job

[Piquaboy]

No one has the right to question John F-ing Kerry.

[sirchtruth]

We're going to find out because from what I read the Pentagon is going to investigate.

[sirchtruth]

These activities, some of which may have been legal, were of very questionable patriotism for an honest citizen of the US but certainly inappropriate for a US Naval officer.

Hammer hitting nail on head!

[Mike Fieschko]

Carter's pardon was for draft dodgers. Note that the language you provide is about Selective Service Act violations.

Kerry enlisted and at least fulfilled his active duty obligation. I don't think that his problem with records is about Selective Service problems. IIRC, there's some document (on Kerry's web site?) from Kerry's draft board stating that he's no longer under their purview.

Back around 1973/1974, I did a little work for ex-military trying to get their discharges upgraded. There was (is?) a board which handles applications. Kerry would have to apply to that board, if the procedures were followed.

The interesting question seems to be:

Kerry signed up for a six-year obligation in 1966. He should've been discharged in 1972.

It seems as if he was discharged in 1978.

Why the additional six years?

[ncpatriot]

Off topic: I've heard Kerry say he served TWO tours of duty. Is this true? If so, then he served more than the four months in VN, right? Kerry is so confusing!

[tioga]

pursue this and get back to us........if true this would end his senaate career as well.

[Jeff Head]

I believe that if he was court martialed, that it would have been fairly common knowledge. He wouldn't have been able to hide it IMHO, particularly given his highly visible status and activities.

Secondly, I do not believe the pardon of such a court martial could have been covered under Carter's pardon because it would have had nothing to do with the MIlitray selective service act or any violations pertaining thereto.

Now, Kerry should have been court martialed and tried for treason. He aided and abetted the enemy, illegaly consulting with/negotiating with their representatives as they negotiated peace in Paris. He also, in his work woith the anti-war movement was a part of meetings where the killing of American politicians were discussed. To my knowledge he never reported those discussions.

All of this while he was in the naval reserve. He should be brought up on charges today for those crimes IMHO.

But it's just my opinion.

[Vn_survivor_67-68]

I think that Carter's blanket pardons pertaining to "selective Service" laws are not likely pertinent to any secrets kerry is hiding.....but "other" proceedings of a different nature could also have been held and then "pardoned" by Carter outside the Selective Service pardons.

I just don't believe that he violated the Selective Service law.....he was on active duty continuously for way more than 3 years.

[stockpirate]

Not to rain on your parade but I think the pardons granted by Carter were for draft dodgers.

A more plausible explanation is that John Kerry was an FBI,DOD informant against the VVAW and the anti-war movement.

[Inge C]

Since Kerry is now being investigated by the Dept of The Navy, little bits and pieces surface, such as Kerry being courtmartialed in the early 70's by the Navy. His Protests, and three meetings with the enemy in Paris was done by him WHILE being in the Navy Reserve, an offense in the Military which is court martial. Interesting to see, what the investigation will bring...more than we ever wanted to know, and it will be ugly.

[Just mythoughts]

Here!

[aposiopetic]

bump

[TommyDale]

I don't see where Kerry violated any part of the "Selective Service" act, as Carter's plan was an amnesty program offered to draft dodgers that illegally ran to Canada and other places to avoid the draft.

Kerry violated much more serious laws when he met secretly with the North Vietnamese while he was still on active reserve duty status. He should be hung or shot for treason to the United States.

[ProtectOurFreedom]

Very intriguing thesis, Tacis. This week, Mr. Kerry, speaking to the Boston Globe, said "If you wind up being less than what you're pretending to be, there is a major confrontation with value, self-esteem and your sense of how others view you." Do I see some major incoming confrontation and declining self-esteem on his part?

[moonman]

Great post!!!

[television is just wrong]

He was just waiting for a democrat to pardon his war crimes.

[onedoug]

It was thirteen (13) months for Marines!

[pushforbush]

You are on to something

[angkor]

if you have the text of ?BUPERSMAN 3830300,?

It's the Naval Bureau of Personnel Manual, probably 3830.300.

I'm still searching for the directive, its a bit elusive.