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Putin Urges Strength; School Toll Tops 340
My Way News ^ | 9/4/04 | MIKE ECKEL/AP

Posted on 09/04/2004 2:18:21 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: wagglebee
"We showed weakness, and weak people are beaten," he said.

For all the media and liberals who lurk here, if you vote for Kerry, YOU ARE IDIOTS!

41 posted on 09/04/2004 3:00:37 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: wagglebee

PUTIN! Stop supporting Iran!


42 posted on 09/04/2004 3:02:21 PM PDT by AmericaUnited (It's time someone says the emperor has no clothes.)
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To: wagglebee

"Some want to tear off a big chunk of our country. Others help them to do it. They help because they think that Russia, as one of the greatest nuclear powers of the world, is still a threat, and this threat has to be eliminated. And terrorism is only an instrument to achieve these goals."

This could be a reference to the EU, really. Interesting.

Thanks for posting this speech, by the way.


43 posted on 09/04/2004 3:02:34 PM PDT by HarryCaul
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To: AmericaUnited

Hopefully, Bush is on the phone right now suggesting this!


44 posted on 09/04/2004 3:04:04 PM PDT by wagglebee (Benedict Arnold was for American independence before he was against it.)
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To: wagglebee

Thanks for the link. I hope that their blind arrogance throws Putin into the coalition with us. Russia is a good country to have on your side in a fight,and I tentatively add,they will undertake to do things that we might have to scruple to do sometimes,if they're really mad or afraid enough.


45 posted on 09/04/2004 3:04:24 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: valleygal

I would like to see Bush work this line into his campaign.


46 posted on 09/04/2004 3:06:04 PM PDT by wagglebee (Benedict Arnold was for American independence before he was against it.)
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To: Bobby777
Islam is a force of nature and must be dealt with as such. The Mohammedan conceit of being inevitable can be stopped in it's tracks if we do it right.
47 posted on 09/04/2004 3:06:28 PM PDT by dennisw (Allah FUBAR!)
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To: Bobby777

Thanks for the grin :)


48 posted on 09/04/2004 3:07:42 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: mrsmel

It would be nice to have an ally with an "I don't give a f***" attitude to do some of the "dirty work" and deflect criticism from Bush.


49 posted on 09/04/2004 3:08:12 PM PDT by wagglebee (Benedict Arnold was for American independence before he was against it.)
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To: wagglebee

Me, too.


50 posted on 09/04/2004 3:08:33 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: mrsmel
I fear that Putin will use this as an excuse to impose more authoritarian rule in Russia

That's certainly suggested by his references to the glory days of the Soviet Union in his speech. You will recall how the FBI used 9/11 as an excuse, not to chase terrorists (at which they were never much use, anyway), but to get new "antiterrorist" surveillance powers, which so far have only been used against run-of-the-mill criminals.

Ask a policeman for policy advice and he will hand you a road map to a police state. Note that Putin was, ere he became a political player, a career Chekist.

Finally, police state tactics have to be recognized as ineffective against terrorists. Chechen terrorists even operated successfully inside the old Soviet Union. The Police State only suppresses legitimate dissent, not terrorism.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

51 posted on 09/04/2004 3:09:51 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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I'm afraid, my friend, that we are seeing shadows of the Apocalypse, distant at this point, but that this is how it begins. There will be more P.C., let's dialogue, Stockholm Syndrome, and 1,000's upon 1,000's will die.

these past two weeks, we've got over 500 dead in Russia. When these clowns get a nuclear weapon, a major city on the face of the Earth will evaporate and the radiation will spread all over. And there will be dancing in certain streets.


52 posted on 09/04/2004 3:09:57 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: valleygal

glad to be of service!

with the right voices and intonation, that's still a great joke!

8)


53 posted on 09/04/2004 3:11:19 PM PDT by Bobby777
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Yes indeed,and the Russians don't have a large fifth column of liberals and "peaceniks" to answer to. The Russian people haven't as a whole been mentally corrupted like that,as far as I can tell. They still have perfectly logical reactions to people killing their loved ones,especially their children-kill the killers.

That's too much for our native "nuanced" liberals to understand.


54 posted on 09/04/2004 3:11:27 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: wagglebee

I'm assuming you meant the"weak are beaten line", not my Kerry voters are idiots line, LOL!


55 posted on 09/04/2004 3:11:27 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: wagglebee

piss on you russia. youre getting what you deserve.


56 posted on 09/04/2004 3:12:06 PM PDT by phxaz (w: 7 minutes of composure. kerry: 37 minutes of paralysis.)
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No country deserves to have their children murdered in cold blood.


57 posted on 09/04/2004 3:13:27 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: valleygal

Yeah, telling people they are idiots usually doesn't make them very agreeable to your position. :)


58 posted on 09/04/2004 3:17:01 PM PDT by wagglebee (Benedict Arnold was for American independence before he was against it.)
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To: Criminal Number 18F

I have no fear of a police state assuming power in this country. We don't have a history of it,and our culture and people wouldn't permit it. I have no problem with our own authorities tightening security in times like these.No American whether left or right would submit to authoritarian rule.

From many things that I've read,many of the Russian people themselves are nostalgic for the "glory days" of Soviet rule!!!


59 posted on 09/04/2004 3:17:05 PM PDT by mrsmel
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You think that those children did something to deserve being held hostage and killed by those animals? This wasn't a coup d'etat, it was the holding and murder of children,for heaven's sake!


60 posted on 09/04/2004 3:19:30 PM PDT by mrsmel
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