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Justice Dept demanding records on liberal Internet site that lists delegates to RNC
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| August 29, 2004
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Posted on 08/29/2004 1:46:24 PM PDT by nwrep
Edited on 08/29/2004 2:18:07 PM PDT by Admin Moderator.
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The Justice Department is demanding records on a liberal Internet site that lists delegates to the Republican National Convention and urges protesters to give them an unwelcome reception, the NY TIMES is planning to splash on Monday, newsroom sources tell DRUDGE.
Federal prosecutors said in a subpoena that the information was needed as part of a criminal investigation into possible voter intimidation.
But civil rights advocates argue that the Internet postings amount to political dissent, not threats or intimidation.
NYT repporter Eric Lichtblau set to detail how: "The grand jury investigation comes at a time when federal officials have mounted an aggressive effort to identify what they say could be violence by political demonstrators in New York and at other major political events."
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To: Let's Roll
I heard these dim hacks were even releasing the social security #s of the delegates. I thought that was against the law - and outrageous in these times of identity theft. The delegates should bring private suits against them.Somewhere between gross negligence, intentional infliction of emotional distress, conspiracy to steal their identity, conspiracy to deny the delegates their civil rights, and potential RICO violations.
To: mewzilla
Put the violators in jail and may they rot like dead rats. I could just hear Ted Jabba Kennedy, crying if the shoe were on the other foot. Bush/Cheney 2004
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posted on
08/29/2004 4:42:12 PM PDT
by
No Surrender No Retreat
(These Colors Never Run( 7.62) "See Ya"ll At The VA Clinic" "Xin Loi My Boy")
To: stockpirate
Oh, I don't know if thats really true. They are completely for defending your right to free speech. Oh wait, thats only if
your free speech is slanted to the left.
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posted on
08/29/2004 4:49:10 PM PDT
by
CMOTB
(ACLU Anti Christian Liberals United)
To: mewzilla
I'm always suprised that I can still be surprised by what liberal loons will do. And people wonder why Republicans in L.A. are afraid to put Bush-Cheney stickers on their cars.
To: CaraM; All
I believe that the San Francisco indymdeia website poisting is what started the investigation, the web page has been changed, but here is the original from Google cache. Note that the author follows the posted RNC delegate personal information links with "Shut down the RNC!" That has crossed the line into promoting criminal misconduct, interference with our election process.
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Phone numbers, addresses, and e-mails of over 1600 RNC delegates! by RNC Delegates Working Group Wednesday August 18, 2004 at 02:47 AM rncdelegates@hush.com Today we are releasing a list of delegates to the 2004 Republican National Convention. This list includes the names, address, phone numbers, and e-mail addresses of RNC delegates in addition to what hotel each one is staying at during their invasion of New York City.
"The earth is not dying, it is being killed. And those that are killing it have names and addresses." Utah Phillips
At the 2004 Republican National Convention, the self-appointed managers of the world will be discussing their party platform of racism, imperialism and the violent suppression of human liberty. They will proudly renominate the unelected president of an illegitimate government. For the past four years, in the United States, we have seen a terrifying increase in racism against Arabs and Muslinms, the passage of the draconian USA PATRIOT Act, handouts to the rich that would make Reagan blush, millions of lost jobs, and an accelerated continuation of the war against the poor and the oppressed. Abroad, the Empire has claimed the stage of history as its own, even ignoring many of its old imperial allies, invaded two sovereign states, started a bogus War on Terror, overseen a coup in Haiti, attempted to overthrow the Venezuelan government, overseen, aided, and authorized the brutal and illegal Israeli occupation of Palestine, and generally accelerated and intensified an already belligerent imperial system of domination which threatens the Earth and all its peoples. In short, the violent expansion of this rotten system is on one side, and all of us on the other. We view the Republican Party as one of the most important organizations of the ruling class, selling and intellectualizing this system to all thanks in part to a compliant corporate media system. (But do not misinterpret us, we do not view the Democratic Party as an opposition party, but rather as another side of the same coin.) With this in mind we are encouraged by the mobilization in Boston against the Democratic National Convention, and the massive mobilization planned for New York City against the Republican National Convention.
As a small contribution to the anti-RNC efforts, today we are releasing a list of delegates to the 2004 Republican National Convention. This list includes the names, address, phone numbers, and e-mail addresses of RNC delegates in addition to what hotel each one is staying at during their invasion of New York City. It is not a complete list, but does include information on over 1600 delegates gathered from a variety of sources. It is based on a list that was released on the Internet earlier this summer by an anonymous affinity group. We have verified much of this data, expanded upon it, and republished it more broadly.
Our objectives are to: - Supply anti-RNC groups with data on the delegates to use in whatever way they see fit. - Supply a body of information that can be easily added to. - Encourage the republishing and redistribution of this data. - Facilitate making local connections. Many of these delegates are involved in politics and business on a town or county level.
A CSV (comma-delimited file) is supplied with this article (along with a PGP signature). This text-only format was chosen for distribution since it can be easily converted to many other formats like an Excel spreadsheet, HTML, or even an SQL database. (A caveat for importing this CSV file: Some programs, by default, may interpret ZIP codes as numerical data and remove the leading zero, where applicable. Check your settings and program instructions.)
As stated, this is not a 100% complete list, and not 100% accurate, but much of the delegate information has already been verified.
Questions or updates to this list may be directed to this e-mail address: rncdelegates (at) hush.com.
Any source of contributed info will remain anonymous of course. We encourage the use of encrpytion. The PGP key for this e-mail address is available on the Hushmail keyserver or upon request.
Shut down the RNC!
* * * * * * * * * * NOTE: The spreadsheet (CSV) file itself could not be uploaded to this IMC. Please go to this URL to download the RNC delegate list:
http://nyc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/101494/index.php * * * * * * * * * *
LATEST COMMENTS ABOUT THIS ARTICLE Listed below are the 10 latest comments of 3 posted about this article. These comments are anonymously submitted by the website visitors.
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To: Enlightiator
Correction to my last post - the San Francisco indymedia site has a link to what may be the original post of the RNC delegates names, hotels, home addresses and telephone numbers, etc:
http://nyc.indymedia.org/mod/info/display/mission/index.php
This web page is still up, and you can post your comments to it, rate comments, etc. I have!
To: Enlightiator
To: Defender2
To: nwrep
Until Kerry disavows and condemns any potential violence, he should be held responsibe for any violence committed by the left wing's anarchists.
I have not heard a single word from him or his Kamp saying no Violence this Week in NYC.
Any 527 involved in coordinating, funding and inciting violence should be closed down and the directors arrested.
If there are any links between Komrade Kerry's Kamp, a 527, a Heinz non Profit or ? with acts of violence, the Kerry's, and others should be held responsible in criminal and civilian courts.
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posted on
08/29/2004 6:39:06 PM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
To: Maria S
Radioactive sealed sources are likely sources for x-ray machines and other tools which use radioactive elements. I assume that if you buy enough of them you could use the contents to produce a dirty bomb. Probably harder than it sounds as I am sure most of the material is encased not only in tough casing, but hopefully suspended in epoxy or other material.
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posted on
08/29/2004 7:09:34 PM PDT
by
max_rpf
To: nwrep; nicmarlo; TheLion; Budge; cyborg; Mo1
Interesting. That internet site wouldn't happen to be moveon.org, would it? Hehehehe....
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posted on
08/29/2004 7:20:33 PM PDT
by
sweetliberty
("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
To: areafiftyone
"That sight was Indy Media" Oh.
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posted on
08/29/2004 7:21:33 PM PDT
by
sweetliberty
("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
To: areafiftyone
I'm sure their shredders are working overtime.
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posted on
08/29/2004 7:22:51 PM PDT
by
Not A Snowbird
(Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
To: Thebaddog
"I think that Beckel was also the genius who paid a hooker with a personal check for services in the home." I thought that was Dick Morris. I could be mistaken.
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posted on
08/29/2004 7:25:17 PM PDT
by
sweetliberty
("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
To: sweetliberty
I'd like to know, myself! : )
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posted on
08/29/2004 7:30:24 PM PDT
by
nicmarlo
To: nicmarlo
Apparently one of them is indymedia. Read some of the posts, but one poster said there are a couple of others being investigated too.
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posted on
08/29/2004 7:32:24 PM PDT
by
sweetliberty
("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
To: nwrep
The balance here is when the line of illegal action is crossed. They can do anything they want with the info up to that point. In that regard:
1. http://rncnotwelcome.org/pie.html
"While pie-throwing is a mainstay of political theater, the pie-ed party may file charges against her or his assailant. Secretary of Agriculture Dan Glickman was gooped by a PETA member who was charged with assault, which carries a recommended penalty of up to a year imprisonment. The three members of the Biotic Baking Brigade who hit Mayor Brown were arrested and charged with assault and battery. A jury found the trio not guilty of assault, but guilty of battery. The prosecution had recommended a term of three-years probation, which the threesome rejected, saying probation would prevent them from further protests. Instead, they were sentenced to six months in county jail. Prior to the Biotic Baking Brigades trial last year, no pie-throwing case had gone to trial in America in 20 years."
They know it's illegal, and they're advocating it anyway. That's conspiracy to commit an illegal act, making RICO applicable.
And since when do we let criminals "reject" sentences?
2. What were the specifics of the prolifers who posted info on doctors? Did they advocate violence? What was their punishment? From what I remember I thought it was a massive fine. If anyone knows please post. I'm less concerned about the specifics of the punishments, but whatever they are the justice system had darn well better make sure they apply punishments consistently to both sides. The prolifer case establishes precedent.
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posted on
08/29/2004 7:32:53 PM PDT
by
truecons
To: sweetliberty
indymedia....I've only heard that name tossed around here a few times; otherwise, don't know if I recall hearing them outside of FR.....
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posted on
08/29/2004 7:33:52 PM PDT
by
nicmarlo
To: PeaceBeWithYou
"And at the end it says "Peace be with you"." I'd have never figured you to be behind such subversive activities. ;-)
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posted on
08/29/2004 7:34:09 PM PDT
by
sweetliberty
("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
To: Enlightiator
Is this from the Rochester Institute of Technology?
CA....
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posted on
08/29/2004 7:36:14 PM PDT
by
Chances Are
(Whew! It seems I've once again found that silly grin!)
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