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Texas official regrets allowing Bush to enlist in National Guard
Knight Ridder ^ | 8/27/04

Posted on 08/27/2004 5:23:25 PM PDT by ambrose

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To: EllaMinnow
"How low will they go?"

When they reach hell, they'll keep digging.

41 posted on 08/27/2004 5:41:21 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
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To: ambrose

So??? Kerry tried to get out of serving by going to grad school in France. He couldn't get into grad school in the states because his grades were too low. But Kerry apparently waited to long to apply, because they didn't let any one leave the country once they were made 1A.


42 posted on 08/27/2004 5:42:47 PM PDT by Eva
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To: federal

I loved the job Robert Caro did on him.


43 posted on 08/27/2004 5:42:47 PM PDT by ninonitti
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To: ambrose

Maybe GW got some bad information from the leftwing activists like Tom Hayden, and actually believed what hippies and yippies were spewing back then, and he didn't want to burn down any Vietnamese orphanages. Kerry heard the same BS, and said, "send me."


44 posted on 08/27/2004 5:42:54 PM PDT by raised by wolves
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To: federal
There has never been a dirtier politian from Texas than Lyndon Baines Johnson.

Hey, I was born in a hospital named after the guy... You don't think they have a cure for that do you?

45 posted on 08/27/2004 5:44:05 PM PDT by coconutt2000
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To: ambrose
There is a reason why Ben Barnes is practicing law in D.C.

Because, in Texas, Ben Barnes is a known liar.

Bill Clinton, without the finesse...

46 posted on 08/27/2004 5:44:15 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: ambrose

Can you spell W - H - O - R - E - ?


47 posted on 08/27/2004 5:45:23 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: ambrose

Kerry and co will 'REAP WHAT HE SOWS"!


48 posted on 08/27/2004 5:45:48 PM PDT by Inge C
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To: buzzsaw6

To express this in layman's terms, what you are saying is that GWB had to 'EARN' his wings. They just don't hand them out to anyone, even if your daddy is a public official or not.


49 posted on 08/27/2004 5:46:33 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (The whole truth.)
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To: ambrose
ER, Mr JFK, if I could interrupt your nervous breakdown for a moment. Please answer the question on when you will be releasing all of your military records. Please refrain from drooling all over the place... and please quit mumbling "its Bushs fault. Its Bushs fault" everytime you open your mouth.
50 posted on 08/27/2004 5:46:48 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (I volunteer to instruct JFK on the meaning of a purple heart!!)
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To: Endeavor

In the 1980s I took Barnes' deposition. He was a typical politician deadbeat---unwilling to pay his bills. I see his character hasn't changed.


51 posted on 08/27/2004 5:48:42 PM PDT by John Thornton
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To: EllaMinnow
How low will they go?

Lower...

We haven't reached the depths yet.

But this is pretty darn lame.

52 posted on 08/27/2004 5:51:22 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Northern Yankee

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JOHN KERRY = $1 Billion

JOHN KERRY = Enemy of Vietnam Vets

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1320

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53 posted on 08/27/2004 5:56:36 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: Endeavor

Yeh, Barnes was "tainted" by the Sharpstown scandal which "tainted" many in state government at that time-Sharpstown was a major stock fraud. He's Texas' second biggest crook to LBJ.


54 posted on 08/27/2004 5:58:42 PM PDT by izzatzo
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To: ambrose

How many times will they roll this story out.

This has been proven wrong several times.

This guy has been challenged several times to back it up with real proof...and he has not done so.


55 posted on 08/27/2004 6:03:02 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: Endeavor
Ben Barnes is one of the biggest crooks Texas politics ever saw
Yeah, Ben was so crooked that he couldn't run for political office anymore. Ben, like Mr. Kerry did, hopes that we won't remember the past.
56 posted on 08/27/2004 6:03:18 PM PDT by Clara Lou (Hillary Clinton: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: ambrose

...and Barnes has never said the Bushes contacted him about the matter. "

Barnes is full of sh!t.

He better be careful. He has been involved with some crooked dealings through out the year. Including stuff with the current Travis County DA.


57 posted on 08/27/2004 6:05:32 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: Let's Roll
And at the time wasn't that unit still being rotated to Vietnam and didn't GWB volunteer to go?

Ex-pilot says Bush put in for Vietnam

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A former senior Virginia Air National Guard commander, who served with George W. Bush in the Texas Air Guard, says Bush volunteered for Vietnam combat service but was turned down because he did not have the required flight experience.

William J. Campenni, a retired Air Guard colonel, also said absences such as Bush's from his unit were common in the Air Guard during the period of Bush's service and still are.

~snip~

He said a check of the 1970-71 records of the 111th Fighter Interceptor Squadron "and any other [Air National Guard] squadron" would show "other pilots excused for career obligations and conflicts."

Bush joined the Texas Air National Guard at Ellington Air Force Base in May 1968. In May 1972, records show he received permission to perform nonflying duties in Alabama.

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Freeing the then-lieutenant from his Texas duties in 1972 was helped, Campenni said, because the Houston unit was changing from an operational fighter squadron to a training squadron with a new airplane, the F-101 Voodoo.

The mission switch "required that more pilots be available for full-time instructor duty rather than part-time, traditional reservists with outside employment," he said. Bush was a part-time Guard member, as most Guard airmen are.

"The winding down of the Vietnam War in 1971 provided a flood of exiting active-duty pilots for these instructor jobs, making part-timers like Lt. Bush and me somewhat superfluous," Campenni said.

"Any pilot could have left the Air Force or the Air Guard with ease after 1972 before his commitment was up," he said, "because there just wasn't room for all of them anymore."

~snip~

"There was one big exception to this abusive use of the Guard to avoid the draft," Campenni said, "and that was for those who wanted to fly, as pilots or crew members."

Air Guard pilot duty required up to 2½ years of active-duty service for training, he said. Draftees served for two years, overwhelmingly in the Army.

Air National Guard units began flying supply missions in Vietnam in 1965, and the Air Guard was mobilized twice during the Vietnam War. Guard aviators in five squadrons flying the F-100 Super Sabre fighter-bomber were called up for duty in Vietnam in 1968.

"Avoiding service?" Campenni said. "Yeah, tell that to those guys."

Simply flying tactical military aircraft is dangerous, he said.

"Six of those with whom I served in those years never made their 30th birthdays because they died in crashes flying air-defense missions" in the United States, Campenni said.

"Our Texas [Air National Guard] unit lost several planes right there in Houston during Lt. Bush's tenure, with fatalities," he said.

"Just strapping on one of those obsolescing F-102s was risking one's life."

~snip~

George W. Bush was no "chickenhawk". I wish I could direct this to the slimeball that was so recently gracing us with his presence.

58 posted on 08/27/2004 6:06:19 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: ambrose

I'm shocked I tell ya, shocked! .


59 posted on 08/27/2004 6:08:58 PM PDT by tiki
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To: ambrose
Ben Barnes is a snake. In 1970, when I was in college and he was Lt. Gov of Texas (the most powerful office in Texas), he was dating a girl who lived in a room a couple doors down from me in a private dorm called The Dobie. I think she was home coming queen at UT.

When he ran for governor he needed a little more respectability so he married a woman with three kids, then promptly lost the election.

Bumper stickers in Austin used to say "It's Ten O:Clock, Do You Know Where Ben Barnes Is?"

60 posted on 08/27/2004 6:09:22 PM PDT by bayourod (You're either for President Bush or against him. There is no "but...")
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