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To: Beelzebubba

No, actually it means that gun ownership would be decided on the whims of the government - just like car ownership. Owning and driving a car is not a right - it's a privilege. So, it makes sense that the government can make all these requirements for training, testing, insurance, etc... before they ALLOW you to own and drive a car.

That's what Keyes wants for Gun Ownership - if you want to own one, you have to jump through all kinds of government-mandated hoops before they ALLOW you to exercise a constiutional right...

Something about that bothers me, as it should bother any 2nd amendment supporter...

(Still Alan Keyes is better than Obama, but I have a disagreement with Keyes on this issue with regards to "licensing guns like cars")


461 posted on 08/26/2004 8:08:13 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (I think the mistake a lot of us make is thinking the state-appointed shrink is our friend.)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

No, actually it means that gun ownership would be decided on the whims of the government - just like car ownership. Owning and driving a car is not a right - it's a privilege. So, it makes sense that the government can make all these requirements for training, testing, insurance, etc... before they ALLOW you to own and drive a car.



I'm not speaking for Keyes, but I can go out and buy a car without government permission, even if I am not a licensed driver or even adult. There is no government record of the transaction, and I don't even need to identify myself to the dealer. I can have a felony record, and can be a non-citizen.

That dispenses with the notion of the right to buy or own cars/guns.

As long as I don't expect to operate (shoot) the vehicle (gun) on publicly-funded roads (ranges) I do not need to go through any qualification process, and no insurance requitrement.

The mantra that driving is a "privilege" is nonsese perpetrated by those who don't understand the fundamental Constitutional rights of people to move about in their world freely. However, even if we accept that driver's ed statist chestnut, the "privilege" applies only to the operation of motor vehicles on public roads, not to their ownership, or the right to transport them as non-operating cargo on public roads.

Also, if guns were treated like cars, then I could buy them from sellers in other states without involving a gun dealer. While guns would have to meet safety standards to be fired at public ranges, I could buy ones that had any level of firepower, any size large or small, etc.

I would be grateful if guns were treated like cars, never mind that our gun rights are expressed in the constitution, and car rights aren't.


471 posted on 08/26/2004 11:22:06 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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