[Chad Fairbanks]

The reason for the 2nd amendment is so that we citizens can keep and bear arms to defend ourselves from a runaway tyranical government.

Now, that I agree with, and have no problems with it. However, again, as shown by an apparent direct quote, Keyes wants us all to be trained and licensed by that same government in order to exercise the 2nd amendment...

So, one day the government becomes a runaway tyrannical government, so we get fed up and go to hem asking to be trained and licensed to defend ourselves from the... oops...

[SJackson]

Now, that I agree with, and have no problems with it. However, again, as shown by an apparent direct quote, Keyes wants us all to be trained and licensed by that same government in order to exercise the 2nd amendment... So, one day the government becomes a runaway tyrannical government, so we get fed up and go to hem asking to be trained and licensed to defend ourselves from the... oops...

Good grief, you'll already be trained. Train the kids youself. How about the CMP, even Clinton didn't try to finish them off, though they were privatized. Civilian training through the CMP has been around for nearly a hundred years, and the NRA's been doing it longer.

Get over the "training" fetish. Two guys are running, Keyes vs Obama. On 2nd amendment issues the choice is crystal clear. If Keyes gets your goat on other issues, or as a candidate (I admit he's not ideal) save it for non 2nd amendment threads.