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Its a moot point now about the stealth plane flying to athens, sochi, thatmountansideoverthere, thatmountiansidehere, whereever. The second plane has been found

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/08/24/russia.planecrash/index.html

A ministry spokeswoman said the wreckage of one jet was found ablaze in the Tula region, about 160 kilometers (100 miles) south of Moscow.

Search and rescue teams were at the site searching for possible survivors, but the ministry said none of the 34 passengers and eight-member crew are believed to have survived.

The wreckage of the second jetliner has also been found, Russian state television reported early Wednesday, citing aviation officials. It was reported missing minutes after the first crash.

They did not say whether any survivors were found.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has ordered security services to launch an immediate investigation, Russian news agencies reported early Wednesday.

The flights took off from Moscow within minutes of each other Tuesday night and were bound for cities in southern Russia.

Witnesses reported seeing the first plane explode before it crashed, the Russian news agency Interfax reported.

The government-run news agency Ria Novosti reported that the plane's wreckage was in two separate locations.

The second plane, carrying with between 46 and 52 people on board, was about 100 miles (160 kilometers) from Rostov-on-Don when it dropped off radar screens.

The first plane disappeared from radar at 10:56 p.m. (0756 GMT), the news agency said.

The Tupolev-134 had taken off from Moscow's Domodedovo Airport and was en route to Volgograd, in southern Russia.

The second plane, a Tupolev-154, disappeared from radar at 10:59 p.m. after having taken off from the same airport en route to Sochi, a tourist resort on the Black Sea in southern Russia, the ministry spokeswoman reported.

The Tupolev-154 is a standard medium-range airliner on domestic flights in Russia, according to aviation websites.

Russian authorities offered no explanations for the crashes but said they had increased security at airports following an explosion at a Moscow bus station earlier Tuesday, which injured three people.

"If this were just one, you would look toward some sort of aircraft issue," Peter Goelz, a former managing director of the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board, told CNN.

"But with two of them going down so close together, it's awfully ominous."

The incidents also took place just days before a regional election in the rebellious southern territory of Chechnya, where Russian troops have battled separatist guerrillas for five years.

Chechen separatists have been blamed for numerous bombings and other attacks in Russia in recent years, including the seizure of hundreds of hostages at a Moscow theater that ended with more than 100 hostages dead.


794 posted on 08/24/2004 8:16:48 PM PDT by melkor
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To: melkor

this would cause some confusion to ground witnesses..
"The government-run news agency Ria Novosti reported that the plane's wreckage was in two separate locations. "

If a part blew off it would look like an explosion, maby it lost an engine or something (I dont know much about planes, I assume they can break/blast off) and when the other part landed, it would look like a crash. Were gonna get different storys depending on the angle that the witness was, the elevation, the terrain, etc etc etc.


798 posted on 08/24/2004 8:26:03 PM PDT by melkor
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