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Shoulder-fire missiles

As at least one airliner was at or near cruise altitude, this is highly unlikely.

[NJ_gent]

I should have put a [/sarcasm] tag in there. I was repeating some of what has been stated in this thread as absolute certainty. That these absolutely certain assertions contradict one another doesn't seem to bother those who continue making them.

I'm still not convinced two planes went down. Why? Number one - it's Russia. Number two - it's still early in the accounts, which means there will be a lot of "facts" misreported by people through no fault of their own.