Posted on 08/24/2004 1:43:08 PM PDT by ambrose
Posted on Tue, Aug. 24, 2004
Cheney Backs Freedom for Gay Relationships
TODD DVORAK
Associated Press
DAVENPORT, Iowa - Vice President Dick Cheney, whose daughter Mary is a lesbian, spoke supportively about gay relationships on Tuesday, saying "freedom means freedom for everyone."
At a campaign rally in this Mississippi River town, Cheney was asked about his stand on gay marriage - an issue for which his boss, President Bush, has pushed for a constitutional amendment to ban such unions.
"Lynne and I have a gay daughter, so it's an issue our family is very familiar with," Cheney said. "With the respect to the question of relationships, my general view is freedom means freedom for everyone ... People ought to be free to enter into any kind of relationship they want to.
"The question that comes up with the issue of marriage is what kind of official sanction or approval is going to be granted by government? Historically, that's been a relationship that has been handled by the states. The states have made that fundamental decision of what constitutes a marriage," he said.
Bush backs a constitutional amendment prohibiting gay marriage, a move Cheney says was prompted by various judicial rulings, including the action in Massachusetts that made gay marriage legal.
"I think his perception was that the courts, in effect, were beginning to change, without allowing the people to be involved," Cheney said. "The courts were making the judgment for the entire country."
That stand put Cheney at odds with his wife. Last month, Lynne Cheney said states should have the final say over the legal status of personal relationships, a comment that came just days before the Senate failed to back the ban.
Cheney said the amendment did not have the votes to pass, but he also said the federal Defense of Marriage Act, which President Clinton signed into law in 1996, may be sufficient to resolve the issue.
The Cheneys have two daughters, both of whom are working on the campaign. Mary Cheney is director of vice presidential operations for the Bush-Cheney re-election campaign. She held a public role as her father's assistant in the 2000 campaign and helped the GOP recruit gay voters during the 2002 midterm elections.
During the 2000 campaign, vice presidential candidate Dick Cheney took the position that states should decide legal issues about personal relationships and that people should be free to enter relationships of their choosing.
While Bush and Cheney back the proposed constitutional amendment, their Democratic rivals, Sens. John Kerry of Massachusetts and John Edwards of North Carolina, oppose the amendment.
The Democrats also oppose gay marriage, but defend a gay couple's rights to the same legal protections as those conferred in marriage.
What 'right' does someone have to spread a deadly disease?
If he doesn't care (and I am not speaking for him, but am parroting your words) then he is not (in my book) a good Republican.
One's personal familial circumstances cannot dictate one's core principals.
Yes, I would. But being a lesbian is not against the law.
Now if you want to discuss an issue that is fine. But if you want to indulge in personal attacks, i suggest you dedicate a separate thread to it.
Btw you do realize that you are sick and need professional help.
You not only obsessed over me in 30+ postings, eventhough i wasn no longer on the thread, you now are stalking me all over the board.
Check your state laws in our mutual home state of NC, my dear...
In the fantasies of some around here, it would be.
Core principles dictated by who? You? You have decided that he should stand against it?
I suppose you'd have been happier if he called for a public stoning of his daughter.
Excuse me, I'm on my way out the door. To go have dinner with a good friend. She's a lesbian.
Unless and until science proves conclusively that homosexual acts are genetically ordered and not morally disorded lasciviousness that lampoons human nature and frustrates Divine intention, I'll never believe that "it's as much their world as it is ours". It's only as much "their world" as we as a society allow it to be.
I'm sure they have the right to exist in peace so that perhaps they might allow their God-given instincts to rise up one day and overthrow their perverted lusts, but the devious acts they perform on one another, and the disease that incubates and spreads as a result, should absolutely never be accepted or embraced by our society, or considered as "part of our world". I think homosexuality is straight from hell.
What 'right' does someone have to spread a deadly disease?
They probably also include oral sex between heterosexuals to be illegal too. And you will back these laws as well? Or are you self-serving?
Old OWK's never die, they just change screen names...
I know what the law is in NC; it's not against the law to be a lesbian.
Not OWK. Been here since 2001. You might be surprised to discover not every FReeper shares your views.
I mentioned last week that my sister had stem cell replacement; I was given the proverbial third degree.....LOL.
You mean like tuberculosis?
Your dinner's getting cold (but your date is getting "hot"...)
So if they can prove their "disease free" it's fine by you?
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