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Posted on 08/24/2004 1:43:08 PM PDT by ambrose
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Comment #41 Removed by Moderator
To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
But freedom means freedom for everyone.
But only until it contravenes the social/legal structure of the country. Freedom doesn't mean that I can't shoot someone a bullet in the head just because I think they should procreate. For instance, we do allow group relationships (sex) while we don't allow undefined group procreation. So, it is not a question of morals or ethics, but a question of social structure.
As for the turkey baster, there still is only one natural mother and one father. The latter remains unknown and the second lesbian partner assumes the legal stand of the adoptive parent. No difference to heterosexual couples where he is shooting blanks.
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posted on
08/24/2004 2:29:52 PM PDT
by
drtom
To: jerrydavenport
What 'right' does someone have to spread a deadly disease?
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posted on
08/24/2004 2:29:52 PM PDT
by
Darksheare
(Who are all these mimes, why are they in the woods, and did you know they taste like chicken?)
To: Bella_Bru
This may or may not have occurred to you, but what if he doesn't care?If he doesn't care (and I am not speaking for him, but am parroting your words) then he is not (in my book) a good Republican.
One's personal familial circumstances cannot dictate one's core principals.
To: Lurking2Long
Yes, I would. But being a lesbian is not against the law.
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posted on
08/24/2004 2:30:14 PM PDT
by
Howlin
(John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
To: Darksheare
Now if you want to discuss an issue that is fine. But if you want to indulge in personal attacks, i suggest you dedicate a separate thread to it.
Btw you do realize that you are sick and need professional help.
You not only obsessed over me in 30+ postings, eventhough i wasn no longer on the thread, you now are stalking me all over the board.
To: Howlin
Check your state laws in our mutual home state of NC, my dear...
To: Howlin
But being a lesbian is not against the law.In the fantasies of some around here, it would be.
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posted on
08/24/2004 2:31:21 PM PDT
by
Bella_Bru
(It's for the children = It takes a village)
To: Lurking2Long
If he doesn't care (and I am not speaking for him, but am parroting your words) then he is not (in my book) a good Republican. One's personal familial circumstances cannot dictate one's core principals. Core principles dictated by who? You? You have decided that he should stand against it?
I suppose you'd have been happier if he called for a public stoning of his daughter.
Excuse me, I'm on my way out the door. To go have dinner with a good friend. She's a lesbian.
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posted on
08/24/2004 2:33:21 PM PDT
by
Bella_Bru
(It's for the children = It takes a village)
To: jerrydavenport
"I would tolerate gays, because they are human and have the same rights as everyone. it's their world as much as it is ours." Unless and until science proves conclusively that homosexual acts are genetically ordered and not morally disorded lasciviousness that lampoons human nature and frustrates Divine intention, I'll never believe that "it's as much their world as it is ours". It's only as much "their world" as we as a society allow it to be.
I'm sure they have the right to exist in peace so that perhaps they might allow their God-given instincts to rise up one day and overthrow their perverted lusts, but the devious acts they perform on one another, and the disease that incubates and spreads as a result, should absolutely never be accepted or embraced by our society, or considered as "part of our world". I think homosexuality is straight from hell.
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posted on
08/24/2004 2:33:38 PM PDT
by
TheCrusader
("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" Pope Urban II (c 1097 a.d.))
To: jerrydavenport
What 'right' does someone have to spread a deadly disease?
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posted on
08/24/2004 2:34:21 PM PDT
by
Darksheare
(Who are all these mimes, why are they in the woods, and did you know they taste like chicken?)
To: Lurking2Long
Check your state laws in our mutual home state of NC, my dear...They probably also include oral sex between heterosexuals to be illegal too. And you will back these laws as well? Or are you self-serving?
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posted on
08/24/2004 2:34:30 PM PDT
by
Bella_Bru
(It's for the children = It takes a village)
To: Bella_Bru
Old OWK's never die, they just change screen names...
To: Lurking2Long
I know what the law is in NC; it's not against the law to be a lesbian.
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posted on
08/24/2004 2:36:07 PM PDT
by
Howlin
(John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
Comment #55 Removed by Moderator
To: Lurking2Long
Not OWK. Been here since 2001. You might be surprised to discover not every FReeper shares your views.
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posted on
08/24/2004 2:36:52 PM PDT
by
Bella_Bru
(It's for the children = It takes a village)
To: Bella_Bru
Among other things, eh?
I mentioned last week that my sister had stem cell replacement; I was given the proverbial third degree.....LOL.
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posted on
08/24/2004 2:37:31 PM PDT
by
Howlin
(John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
To: Darksheare
What 'right' does someone have to spread a deadly disease?You mean like tuberculosis?
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posted on
08/24/2004 2:37:57 PM PDT
by
TigersEye
(Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
To: Bella_Bru
Your dinner's getting cold (but your date is getting "hot"...)
To: Darksheare
What 'right' does someone have to spread a deadly disease?So if they can prove their "disease free" it's fine by you?
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posted on
08/24/2004 2:38:44 PM PDT
by
Howlin
(John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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