Cheney Backs Freedom for Gay Relationships

For some reason or other,some children really ARE born with other sexual orientations.You CAN see it in toddlers,who are far too young to have been influenced by parents/the outside world.No,I'm NOT talking about girls who are "tomboys",but rather extremely effeminate little boys.

As far as "trannies" are concerned,that's a mental illness! OTOH,some children are born hermaphroditic and THEY should be helped with surgery.

Some people,not born with those kind of proclivities,adapt/are drawn to homosexuality/lesbianism for several reasons...1)they think it's "cool" 2) they are rebellious 3)they want to hurt their parents 4)they are manipulated (usually girls)by radical/crazy teachers/profs/cultural icons to "just try it" 5)engage in such behaviors to forward a career/job 5)have deleterious relationships with a parent/parents.

Yes,I absolutely DO believe that this behavior is aberrant;however,in a way,it is also "normal" in that it has been around since man began.Even when it has been outlawed and a taboo,there have been homosexuals and lesbians.The ONLY difference between times prior to our own,starting in the early 20th century,is that until the modern era,lesbians were NEVER,not even in the Bible,considered to be relevant/real.The Victorians didn't even believe lesbianism existed at all. And I have NO idea why that is,but it's true.

And please don't drag in Sapho! She wasn't considered to be a LESBIAN,writ large,until the 20th century lesbian discovered her and her poetry fragments and claimed her as their own.For millenia,her poetry was thought to have been heterosexual erotica.

Of course this topic is much more complex,but I gave you a few things to mull over.

Your arguments all rely on the enforcement of moral standards.

The age of consent reflects society's moral belief that children should not have sex. The American Psychological Association has been considering delisting pedophilia as a disorder, as it did with homosexuality. There has also been an increase in literature from respectable publishers and institutions claiming that children are not harmed by having sex with adults. If this movement continues, as it did for homosexuality, would you be willing to consider "freedom for pedophiles?

The legal status argument for justifying bans on cousin sex/marriage also fails because society recognizes a variety of muddled familial relationships, such as step families. again, it is morality keeping these laws in place.

For closer into the family, you cite the danger of genetic degeneration. However, this does not address the case of infertile male/female relationships within the same family or a father marrying his son.

Laws against bestiality also have no logical ban outside of morality. If one can eat a cow, why can't he futter it?

Finally, your argument on group marriage is quite weak. Lines of descent can be determined by DNA. Perhaps you've heard of it? If two men can marry, you have no logical basis to stop three men or five women and six men.

In the end, the attempt to divorce morality from our law in the name of "freedom" will simply enslave our society to its most base instincts.

Sapho's fragments are interesting, whether she was lesbian or not, and I suspect she was, because she was appears to us as a thoroughly "modern" women through our lens, and her fragments have a certain sophisticated anti establishment sublety which also fasincates, in part because they are fragments. That is why she resonants so. She certainly would have been an interesting campanion at the dinner table, even if alas, for me, probably not in bed.

I thought the two Americans would engage in 69 right on the sand before the audience and NBC television.

LOL!

I came across those two pics on Yahoo before I read your post. I couldn't believe it when I saw it. I can see why men would like to watch beach volleyball--these women like to put on a show.

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