Posted on 08/24/2004 1:43:08 PM PDT by ambrose
Posted on Tue, Aug. 24, 2004
Cheney Backs Freedom for Gay Relationships
TODD DVORAK
Associated Press
DAVENPORT, Iowa - Vice President Dick Cheney, whose daughter Mary is a lesbian, spoke supportively about gay relationships on Tuesday, saying "freedom means freedom for everyone."
At a campaign rally in this Mississippi River town, Cheney was asked about his stand on gay marriage - an issue for which his boss, President Bush, has pushed for a constitutional amendment to ban such unions.
"Lynne and I have a gay daughter, so it's an issue our family is very familiar with," Cheney said. "With the respect to the question of relationships, my general view is freedom means freedom for everyone ... People ought to be free to enter into any kind of relationship they want to.
"The question that comes up with the issue of marriage is what kind of official sanction or approval is going to be granted by government? Historically, that's been a relationship that has been handled by the states. The states have made that fundamental decision of what constitutes a marriage," he said.
Bush backs a constitutional amendment prohibiting gay marriage, a move Cheney says was prompted by various judicial rulings, including the action in Massachusetts that made gay marriage legal.
"I think his perception was that the courts, in effect, were beginning to change, without allowing the people to be involved," Cheney said. "The courts were making the judgment for the entire country."
That stand put Cheney at odds with his wife. Last month, Lynne Cheney said states should have the final say over the legal status of personal relationships, a comment that came just days before the Senate failed to back the ban.
Cheney said the amendment did not have the votes to pass, but he also said the federal Defense of Marriage Act, which President Clinton signed into law in 1996, may be sufficient to resolve the issue.
The Cheneys have two daughters, both of whom are working on the campaign. Mary Cheney is director of vice presidential operations for the Bush-Cheney re-election campaign. She held a public role as her father's assistant in the 2000 campaign and helped the GOP recruit gay voters during the 2002 midterm elections.
During the 2000 campaign, vice presidential candidate Dick Cheney took the position that states should decide legal issues about personal relationships and that people should be free to enter relationships of their choosing.
While Bush and Cheney back the proposed constitutional amendment, their Democratic rivals, Sens. John Kerry of Massachusetts and John Edwards of North Carolina, oppose the amendment.
The Democrats also oppose gay marriage, but defend a gay couple's rights to the same legal protections as those conferred in marriage.
Being a serial killer is a lifestyle choice. And it's a choice anyone here has a right to make. Let's go out there now and parade for the rights of legalized serial killing. It's a lifestyle afterall. And what right does the government have to regulate what goes on in the privacy of one's bedroom..
No, not context.
I just hated typing it all over again.
Yeah, we are all familiar with the "good" Jew, he may be a baker or cobbler or banker. Make no mistake, we cannot be swayed...
Thanks for falling into my trap...please quote where it says in the ruling that the state laws were nullified...
Sounds of crickets chirping...
Most of us here are using this new fangled cut-and-paste thingy. You won't believe the time it saves. ; )
>>>> In other words, Cheney opposes making sodomy punishable by law.
Either way, he is way out of line.
Christians are not supposed to tolerate it. Forgiveness comes after the sin is acknowledged as sin and renounced.
What too many people are asking of Christians is that we renounce the clear line between right and wrong.
Christians should not let others force us to move the bar in the direction of sin for us to win popularity on an Internet thread or anywhere else. That is exactly how acceptance of deviancy is marching us relentlessly toward hell. Even hell itself has been watered down as if it does not exist or as if almost everyone will qualify to escape it's fire.
Jesus told the forgiven whore to "Go and sin no more."
Note his words required her to change her behavior. He did not say, "Go and keep whoring around. It's quite alright with me cause I love you no matter what you do."
So we can let them all out of prison now?
True, but I do so hate reposting things.
Especially in longer threads where someone is asking about something hundreds of posts back, been there done that as we all have.
This is just the Democrats digging around in the dirt for ANYTHING to print that even MIGHT be construed as a break in the Bush administration. This morning yahoo ran an article entitled "Cheney Major Force in Bush Administration" like he's some Cuban revolutionary coming up to stab Bush in the back. Anything they can dig up to print, they will. But then they print about the Swifties, now they're dishonest. Okee. Got it. What a bunch of biased crud.
>>> As we all know, give the liberals an inch, and they'll take miles and miles and miles...
I stand with you 100%. They are using their successes from the 1950's and 1960's as the blueprint for this pro-homo campaign. If they win this battle, what will be next? We cannot give an inch.
And before any of you RINOs ask, if one of my daughters ever announced she were a lesbian, it would not be me she had to worry about, but rather the fires of hell...
Finally, someone with the correct perspective on the issue...
Modernman sleeps...
I know.
And I respect you for it.
We'll be laughing again in a few minutes, once serious business is out of the way.
Did you see that two Russian airliners crashed?
Amen BROTHER!
Slowly, ever so slowly, Modernman creeps back into the slime from whence he came...
No I didn't. I'll have to go look for the story.
BTW I didn't lose my humor and FWIW I imprecisely called it a difference of opinion. I agree with you overall here, just not that logic. I think you should reform your lines and try a different assault. (my unsolicited opinion again)
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