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Keyes: 'The victory is for God'
Chicago Sun Times ^ | August 22, 2004 | BY CATHLEEN FALSANI Religion Reporter

Posted on 08/22/2004 6:15:20 PM PDT by EternalVigilance

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To: EternalVigilance
No, what you don't realize is that the Keyes campaign is just toxic to the future of IL republicans. No one likes a fringe proven loser, and they will associate it with the party that stupidly brought him in as a carpetbagger negatively.

Take the blinders off, and think,the whole nation is not a bunch of Keyes yes-men, far from it. Do the math.

421 posted on 08/23/2004 8:46:54 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Everybody wants prostethic foreheads on their real heads...)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Way back when, before I knew what Keyes stood for, I sensed he was crazy.

My opinion has not changed.


422 posted on 08/23/2004 8:48:48 PM PDT by Bluntpoint
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To: EternalVigilance
EV;That's all I'm saying about it, other than to call liars liars here when they lie.

Right. And as we all know your definition of a "lie" is anything you don't want to hear. Too funny.

423 posted on 08/23/2004 8:49:25 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: EternalVigilance
I attack Keyes because he is a proven loser, time and time again! Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me!

Explain how it is a good thing to have a proven loser like Keyes, who has never garnered the support of an electable base, running in this election? If you cared about beating the dreaded Obama, you would be angry that the IL Republican party couldn't put up anyone better than Keyes! But, evidently your love of Keyes is cult like, you can always hand out flowers at O'Hare and Midway.

424 posted on 08/23/2004 8:51:05 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Everybody wants prostethic foreheads on their real heads...)
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To: Bluntpoint

Keyes has done nothing to broaden his base since day one, its been a salted earth alienation of voters ever since then. And he hurts the Republican party each day.


425 posted on 08/23/2004 8:52:24 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Everybody wants prostethic foreheads on their real heads...)
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To: Jim Robinson

As long as these people have a free hand to attack and slander conservatives, I won't be posting on your site any longer.

It's been a good run, and I wish you the best. You and yours will remain in my prayers.

EV


426 posted on 08/23/2004 8:53:14 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (A REPUBLIC, IF YOU CAN KEEP IT...)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

All that and crazy too!


427 posted on 08/23/2004 8:54:23 PM PDT by Bluntpoint
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To: EternalVigilance

See you tommorrow.


428 posted on 08/23/2004 8:55:14 PM PDT by Bluntpoint
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To: EternalVigilance
Oh please, if you can't argue politics, and have to quit, are your convictions that strong? We debated, you called people names. We asked questions, you ducked and called names. Now, when you won't answer questions, or consider an opposing position, you go running away?

Is your character so weak you have to quit when others don't think the way you do? You wouldn't make much of a leader, I am embarassed for you.

429 posted on 08/23/2004 8:57:06 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Everybody wants prostethic foreheads on their real heads...)
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To: EternalVigilance

Free speech is tough, learn to appreciate it.


430 posted on 08/23/2004 8:57:46 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Everybody wants prostethic foreheads on their real heads...)
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To: EternalVigilance

"I don't agree with the triangulation strategies employed repeatedly... "

So as you said, you really and truly are not a "bush republican" AND you really "don't agree with" him relative to domestic issues.
and this is not a small thing with you... it is in fact something that happens "repeatedly."


Your support of Bush has not really changed... because in a measure unheard of by THIS republican... you really don't support him but on a few things at all... just exactly like Alan does not.

No wonder alan is in trouble.


431 posted on 08/23/2004 9:02:01 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (the madridification of our election is now officially underway.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
But, evidently your love of Keyes is cult like, you can always hand out flowers at O'Hare and Midway.

Or shriek Keyes fire and brimstone rants in a New York subway dressed in black with clenched fist and ashen skin.....

432 posted on 08/23/2004 9:04:03 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: EternalVigilance; central scrutinizer; Amelia; Luis Gonzalez; Robert_Paulson2; tpaine
Please explain,in detail,HOW posts to FR,are helping Obama.

The vast majority of posters,including YOU,don't live in Ill.and are therefore unable to vote in this race.

I said,any times,that I AM attempting to get Conservatives and GOPers to vote for Keyes.You have laughed at and sneered and insulted me continually,when I've pointed that out.Now,you claim that after the primaries,you,YOU made Keyes supporters vote for Bush.Well,guess what? I DON'T BELIEVE YOU DID THAT AT ALL! Why should I or anyone else,for that matter?

Long before you were ever able to vote,I was a Conservative and working on getting GOPers elected.I've NEVER voted for a Dem,nor have I ever sat out an election. Through time,effort,and money,I helped Reagan win Ill.; TWICE! But none of THAT is worth a damn,in your book.

I have a suggestion for you EV...look at the posters who were once Keyes fans and look,REALLY LOOK at who they are.Many have fought each other for years on end,on other topics.Some are enemies,who have NEVER agreed about anything...before.Now they are all in agreement and their numbers are growing daily.

If Keyes and his followers here turn off so many of the political junkies, what is he doing to the "average" man,who doesn't pay all that much attention? If he would only take some well meaning advice,he'd have a much better chance to actually get through/attract more people.Can't YOU talk to him? And I don't mean that he needs to change his beliefs...just learn how to BE a candidate,instead of someone who acts like a KOOK on a soapbox screaming down the LORD'S wrath and playing a race hustler a la Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton with that tax relief reparations scam.

433 posted on 08/23/2004 9:05:42 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Let me tell you.........he's a VERY hard sell to Conservative and staunch GOP voters in Ill.! I've had to dance through hoops. Should he make any more crazy statements,I'll NEVER get those votes back.


434 posted on 08/23/2004 9:08:26 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Jorge
Its good to know that some conservatives do their damnest to live down to the worst stereotypes that the left define them at. If EV has to duck out of a political discussion with fellow conservatives and quit and take his football home, then maybe he should revisit his convictions, because if they are that brittle, they are gonna be broken often.

What is it with Keyes and Buchanan supporters? The hysterical blindness they inflict on themselves is puzzling.

435 posted on 08/23/2004 9:11:38 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Everybody wants prostethic foreheads on their real heads...)
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To: nopardons

How many seats in the house are impacted by the Senatorial race? Any word from the phone bank leadership?
Anybody else there having trouble reigning in the fiscal conservatives?

Northern seats were toast anyway... but how about down south?


436 posted on 08/23/2004 9:11:50 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (the madridification of our election is now officially underway.)
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To: Robert_Paulson2

Didn't work today,so I don't have any stats and I'm taking a break,because I've really about had it.


437 posted on 08/23/2004 9:14:48 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Religion in politics can drive folks crazy.

Folks screaming "Onward Christian Soldiers" get pretty crazy when they turn around and see that nobody wants to follow them down to city hall in protest of a statue or lack thereof.


438 posted on 08/23/2004 9:18:56 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (the madridification of our election is now officially underway.)
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To: Bluntpoint

Think he will use the same screen name or a different one?


439 posted on 08/23/2004 9:29:10 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (the madridification of our election is now officially underway.)
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To: EternalVigilance
"How do I know this? I was Alan's national political director, as most here know."

I guess I'm not "most". Let me make a subtle suggestion to you. You haven't done a darn thing to convince me to follow you or Alan, since the Republican convention of 2000. Nor has most anything that Alan has said since then. In fact, what I normally read here, makes me want to run as far away as I can.

I'm reading Ronald Reagan's autobiography now. There are very few tactics that I've seen exhibited by Alan's follower's in Reagan's political thought. Reagan was a brilliant statesman and politician. But he WAS a politician. He knew what was possible, and he learned that he had to lose some battles to win the war.

And Reagan would NEVER have published an article entitled:

"I AM NOT A FORD REPUBLICAN!"

440 posted on 08/23/2004 9:45:56 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter ("It's the Hypocrisy, Stupid,")
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