Keyes: 'The victory is for God'

Chicago Sun Times ^ | August 22, 2004 | BY CATHLEEN FALSANI Religion Reporter

[EternalVigilance]

Hadn't seen this one. Thought is noteworthy, as it reveals much about the underpinnings of Alan Keyes' philosophy and faith.

[arkady_renko]

Good interview. Thanks for the post.

A_R

[thad5611]

We are at war with an extreme religious view that would use the technology of the 21st Century to return civilization to their concept of the 13th century. Their goals are feasible.

We need a Republican Senate, as Americans, to win that war in my opinion. We do not need another version of a different type of religious nerd to help in that battle.
He cannot help, he can only embarrass.

I have not faith, in the so called faith of the evangelists, to assist in the goals of conservatives. They have different motives than a political philosophy that our party can settle on, and are an unreliable partner in that regard. To them stem cell research, or abortion is more important than the current war, free enterprise or tax cuts.
Democrats have their religious left, but they are never called on it.
If you are a conservative as I am, that just wants to vomit out the self-defined "Christian weirdos" please let me know. This is not about religion but about what is far better for our country.
I would vote against Mr. Keyes.

[thad5611]

I would like to add, if I had a choice between the Moslim 13th century, or the Christian 2nd centry, I would choose the former every time.

[HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath]

One of the greatest Americans living today! Godspeed Alan win or lose, because you already won the grand prize, eternal physical life through Christ's salvation.

[visualops]

He is just awesome.
I really hope he wins because it would be very significant and good for the country, not just Illinois.
The people that have a hard time with him, I think, just have a problem with someone who is so brilliant, and brutally honest.

[escapefromboston]

keyes isn't for tax cuts he is for the total elimination of income tax, so don't go voting for obama just yet

[Long Cut]

"To them stem cell research, or abortion is more important than the current war, free enterprise or tax cuts."

It certainly seems so, does it not? It's like the Leftists who, after 9-11, could not WAIT to once again begin talking about health care, "jobs", the environment, etc, and just forget all that icky war stuff.

It can be insidious...there have been so-called "conservatives" on this very site who have claimed, Left-style, that due to abortion and gay marriage, America DESERVED 9-11 and all that followed.

BTW, you have FReepmail.

[Rex Anderson]

The people that have a hard time with him, I think, just have a problem with someone who is so brilliant, and brutally honest.

Spoken like a true Keyes supporter.

[Long Cut]

Post #2. Interesting...and more and more of these have been appearing lately.

[Bluntpoint]

Keyes only loves those that love him.

Even then, it is a condescending love.

[Engraved-on-His-hands]

Aaawww. Us Christian wierdos aren't that bad. We love our families, help our neighbors, work hard, obey the laws....You know, that kind of stuff.

I guess we could suck out some baby brains or have sex with some goats if it would make you feel better about us, but we choose not to do so. Sorry.

[Jorge]

"The battle is for us, but I have confidence because the victory IS FOR GOD!"

So I guess when Keyes loses we can say that God was defeated? Incredible.

At least Keyes is consistant in his self-righteousness.

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

Why not look past his faith that bothers you and simply look at his political positions? Like the political positions or don't. But in this country, free expression of faith is valued. You don't have to agree with him. That's the wonderful thing about it. I'm turned off by other people's atheism, but I would vote for an atheist I agreed with politically.

[Victoria Delsoul]

So I guess when Keyes loses we can say that God was defeated?

Nope, he'll blame the GOP for not supporting him.

[Jorge]

"So I guess when Keyes loses we can say that God was defeated?"

Nope, he'll blame the GOP for not supporting him.

Oh so, Keyes needed the GOP to deliver his "victory for God". How unfortunate.

[visualops]

Did you even read the interview?

"I thought it was pretty clear. Maybe it wasn't," he says, reflecting on his acceptance speech a few days earlier. "What I meant by it was the victory is in God's hands for his will and decision. That's why I couldn't promise it to people. I might lose. I don't know. None of us knows.

Your comment is ignorant and ill-informed.

[Zevonismymuse]

He cannot help, he can only embarrass.

I am proud of Keyes. He is a remarkable man who is simply brilliant. I encourage you to read more interviews as well as things he has written and I think you will find him to be inspiring.

I am not a Christian. I am a Conservative and I generally don't like the Religious Right and the candidates they support. Keyes relies on reason more than scripture when debating issues.

[Jorge]

Was he saying God is on his side -- the side of the righteous -- and not on that of his Democratic opponent, Barack Obama, a man who professes the same Christian faith?

"Well, professing is the operative word," Keyes says, in a moment of snarkiness..

Now Keyes is the judge of who is or isn't a genuine Christian.

Perhaps after he loses this election he will allow us mortals to witness his ascention to heaven.

[Jorge]

Your comment is ignorant and ill-informed.

No doubt God is on your side too. Right?

To bad the facts aren't. Keyes said his victory was "for God".
That's what I was responding to.