[G.Mason]

Van O'Dell, and John O'Neill.

Is that a breeze I feel?

It seems we may be about to move this ship out of the doldrums of Sargasso Sea.

Thanks for the post Alas!

[olde north church]

Why did it take 3 weeks to get the MSM to let the Swiftboat Vets into the newspapers and on the tube? That's how long it took to develop a coordinated counter-offensive between the Kerry campaign, the MSM and the 527's to be developed and focus-grouped. The first time the NYT recognized the Swifties existense was to attack them as Republican mud-slingers.
If you believe it took only 4 days to create and get the moveon.org anti-Swiftie ad on tv, I've got a gold mine in NJ I'd like to sell you.
The Vets will not be presented as "sympathetic" figures, they will be attacked personally, not on the merits of their service or the accuracy of their information. This is the second time around these guys to be hung out to dry.
I find it extremely interesting, John Kerry is referred to as a "war hero" for 4 months of service in Vietnam, yet the 260 +/- vets who served longer are being portrayed as crackpots, right-wing lunatics, Republican shills, etc., etc,.

[olde north church]

Why did it take 3 weeks to get the MSM to let the Swiftboat Vets into the newspapers and on the tube? That's how long it took to develop a coordinated counter-offensive between the Kerry campaign, the MSM and the 527's to be developed and focus-grouped. The first time the NYT recognized the Swifties existense was to attack them as Republican mud-slingers.
If you believe it took only 4 days to create and get the moveon.org anti-Swiftie ad on tv, I've got a gold mine in NJ I'd like to sell you.
The Vets will not be presented as "sympathetic" figures, they will be attacked personally, not on the merits of their service or the accuracy of their information. This is the second time around these guys to be hung out to dry.
I find it extremely interesting, John Kerry is referred to as a "war hero" for 4 months of service in Vietnam, yet the 260 +/- vets who served longer are being portrayed as crackpots, right-wing lunatics, Republican shills, etc., etc,.

[cksharks]

I havent said much but my final duty station in the Navy was base master at arms in Vallejo Calif. The time frame was June tru Oct 1969. This was the training base for PBR's and Swifts (brown water navy).I more than likely had some of these enlisted men in my baracks. I just dont remember any of the names.They were all very good guys.The death rate of these men was very high.