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To: ancient_geezer; lewislynn
The rate is related to the taxes law being replaced for the economic conditions in effect at the time of determination. 23% pre Bush tax cuts and pre-Bush economy.
You're just makin' stuff up now to try and sound like you know what you're talking about. The NRST rate has nothing to do with the taxes "embedded" in prices right now.
239 posted on 08/29/2004 8:16:23 AM PDT by Your Nightmare
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To: Your Nightmare

You're just makin' stuff up now to try and sound like you know what you're talking about.

Whistling through a graveyard YN, too bad you don't have a clue and are winging it as usual.

The NRST rate has nothing to do with the taxes "embedded" in prices right now.

The enacted NRST rate will be the one commensurate with current conditions, and is in the process of being established as we tinker around your little side issues instead of dealing with the fundamental purposes and goals of the bill.

1st, Repeal of the income/payroll tax system in its entirety, with a viable tax system not dependant of the 16th amendment.

2nd, Repeal the 16th amendment and prohibit the income tax by Constitutional amendment.

Bottomline:

"As a matter of fact, what the income tax does — and this is the debate that I think we always try to get into in order to let you and him fight, see — and the people of this country are led down a path where the actual control of their resources, which in the end is the control over their will, is handed off to the government."

. . .

"The government then manipulates that will in order to destroy the freedom of our electoral system through the income tax structure, and we call the resulting slavery a free system."

"In point of fact, it is not as the founders understood, and the only way to restore real freedom is to give people back control over the income that they earn so that they won‘t, at the voting booth and in other phony issues, be subject to that manipulation."

- KEYES TRANSCRIPT (01/28/02)

 

I discussed the importance of abolishing the income tax because of its tendency to form a habit of servility in the souls of a people that accepts it.

Servility of soul is bad not only in itself, it is also an open door through which will soon walk the abuses of ambitious government power.

Leaders who find themselves with governmental power over a servile people will be quick to conclude that such a people exist to serve them.

Alan Keyes 1999

Taxes & Government Spending:

The intent of the structure of the individual income tax is for political and social mainpulation not revenue collection. The Individual Income tax is maintained to establish and hold every person in the country in perpetual legal jeopardy and to create artificial divisions among the electorate (rich vs. poor; big business vs. the little guy; etc).

Considering those factors, it is always good to remember the philosophical roots of the left which can be found here: Manifesto of the Communist Party, by Karl Marx and Frederick Engels, published in 1848. Holding #2 in the list of tactical toolbox is "A heavy progressive or graduate income tax." to achieve there dominant goal:

"The proletariat will use its political supremacy to wrest, by degree, all capital from the bourgeoisie, to centralize all instruments of production in the hands of the state ... . Of course, in the beginning, this cannot be effected except by means of despotic inroads on the rights of property ... . These measures will, of course, be different in different countries. Nevertheless, in most advanced countries, the following will be pretty generally applicable. "


242 posted on 08/29/2004 8:41:40 AM PDT by ancient_geezer (Equality, the French disease: Everyone is equal beneath the guillotine.)
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