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To: Pikamax
NYTIMES even has a nice graphic
61 posted on 08/19/2004 8:13:43 PM PDT by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax
The contribution topic seems to come up a lot too. Here's how O'Neill addresses that:

'Unfit for Command' Author Defends His Book

[partial transcript of "Special Report With Brit Hume," Aug. 17, 2004; "Special Report With Brit Hume"

HUME: I understand. All right. Now, let's just to talk about you a little further here. There are allegations flying - I saw some of them today on web sites and so on - that you are a Republican activist. And partisan, who has been a registered Republican for the past 20 years or so and has given something on the order of $14,000 to Republican candidates. Your response.

O'NEILL: Well, first of all. Of course, there are 254 guys in our operation, 60 of them won the Purple Heart. I'm only one of many people, but as to me, that is not true either. The actual records, which I actually drawn, show that I have given more money to Democratic candidates than to Republican candidates.

But I'm not a Republican or a Democrat. I have always voted for the person. I have given money for example to Duane Sand who went to the Naval Academy. On the other hand, I have given money to Bill White, who is a Democratic candidate for mayor of Houston. And I've done that because I thought they would be good people.

HUME: Well, what about the 14 grand? Were those contributions you actually did make to Republicans?

O'NEILL: Actually, about half of them were mine and I've given in excess of $25,000 to Democrats over the same 15-year period. About three times as much.

HUME: What about the rest of the other $7,000?

O'NEILL: Those are actually funds, as nearly as I can tell, that were given my law partner who has almost the same name, Edward J. O'Neill. I simply didn't give them. I would have been happy to give them. I just didn't.

HUME: Mr. O'Neill, it's nice to have you. Thank you for coming. Hope we can see you again.

O'NEILL: Thank you very much. Thank you, Brit.]

67 posted on 08/19/2004 8:19:01 PM PDT by raised by wolves
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To: Pikamax
NYTIMES even has a nice graphic

Man they are desperate. The article was one-sided spin, with each comment by the good guys being debunked at length in response. It was like a written Nina Totenberg report, about that utterly biased.

The fact that they pooh-pooh Kerry's blatant and repeated lies about Cambodia (shunting it to the last few paragraphs) makes it all the more obvious.

Well, it's too bad. Their guy is going to lose, in spite of their best efforts. Just wait for the return of those 1992 bumper stickers "ANNOY THE MEDIA: RE-ELECT BUSH"

78 posted on 08/19/2004 8:25:59 PM PDT by Numbers Guy
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To: Pikamax

re: the chart.

You probably could make all sorts of visual representation of O'Neill's connections with Texas Democrats too. Sounds like a connected guy.

Take a look at first two statements of Elliott. They aren't mutually exclusive, but posed so.

Pretty weak job. I think the Swifties will fight back.

You notice all the writing errors in this story?


79 posted on 08/19/2004 8:26:29 PM PDT by Shermy (Kerry smiled and aimed his finger: "Pow.")
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To: Pikamax

They missed at least one contradiction/inconsistency. The sKerry campaign has admitted that he was not in Cambodia on Christmas (seared, seared in his memory). Oh, and they admitted that Nixon wasn't President until 1/20/69.


91 posted on 08/19/2004 8:39:07 PM PDT by ottothedog
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To: Pikamax
NYTIMES even has a nice graphic

Jeeze! If they did that for all the conflicting statements Kerry's made, they have to devote the whole Sunday Times (including the TV Guide & comics) to the flow chart.

92 posted on 08/19/2004 8:40:23 PM PDT by mass55th (We are The Knights Who Say "Ni!" No! Not The Knights Who Say "Ni!" The same!)
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To: Pikamax
Nice graphic? I'm waiting to see the graphic that links Moveon.Org to the DNC and John Kerry. That takes about two links --- Moveon.Org's "custodian of records" and lawyer, Neil Reiff, is a partner in the law firm of Sandler, Reiff & Young. One of the other name partners in that firm, Joseph Sandler, was former general counsel to the DNC. And Mr. Sandler co-authored a letter with Kerry's attorney, Mark Elias of Perkis Coie, to get the Swift Boats ad stopped.

But this won't make the Slimes. Too obvious. Doesn't need the complicated chart.
95 posted on 08/19/2004 8:44:31 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: Pikamax

When the Times wants readers to connect the dots, they run nifty little charts like that. Of course, they've never run a chart showing how the MoveOn and ACT and other anti-Bush groups have staffers who worked for Kerry et al. Or any investigation of George Soros, Stephen Bing, etc.


99 posted on 08/19/2004 8:52:23 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: Pikamax

In a group of 254 guys, many of them very accomplished and with long military careers and all the connections that go with that, to have so FEW connections is surprising.


124 posted on 08/19/2004 9:42:56 PM PDT by line drive to right
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Here's my not-so-nice, but not nearly as complicated graphic tying Kerry and Moveon.org through their lawyers:

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148 posted on 08/19/2004 11:12:46 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: Pikamax
That's the graphic I just posted about above.

Evidently the New York Times believes that the swift boat veterans are being orchestrated from beyond the grave. Tex Lezar, the name listed at the center of their chart who they use as the "link" between Rove and O'Neill passed away in January of 2003 well before anybody even knew Kerry would be a candidate.

152 posted on 08/19/2004 11:47:08 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist ("Can Lincoln expect to subjugate a people thus resolved? No!" - Sam Houston, 3/1863)
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To: Pikamax

When are they going to investigate Kerry?


157 posted on 08/20/2004 12:19:17 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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