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Friendly Fire: The Birth of an Anti-Kerry Ad (NYT on Swift Boat Vets)
New York Times ^ | 08/20/04 | KATE ZERNIKE and JIM RUTENBERG

Posted on 08/19/2004 7:16:58 PM PDT by conservative in nyc

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As Drudge promised, here is the NYT article on the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.
1 posted on 08/19/2004 7:16:59 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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I can't wait until they do their articles on MoveOn.org and the Georgie boy bottom less money pit connection.....(but I won't hold my breath)
2 posted on 08/19/2004 7:19:48 PM PDT by b4its2late (John John Kerry Edwards change positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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well, duh..should they have gone to Democrats and MoveON for money?


3 posted on 08/19/2004 7:19:59 PM PDT by ken5050 (We've looked for WMD in Iraq for LESS time than Hillary looked for the Rose Law firm billing records)
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A damage report to Mr. Thurlow's boat shows that it received three bullet holes that day, suggesting enemy fire, and later intelligence reports indicate that one Viet Cong was killed in action and five others wounded, reaffirming the presence of an enemy

I wonder what this is about.

4 posted on 08/19/2004 7:24:46 PM PDT by what's up
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>>here is the NYT article on the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.

This tabloid is continuously trying to present itself as a legitimate newspaper. Pitiful.


5 posted on 08/19/2004 7:27:35 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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Conveniently omits O'Neill's voting for Gore and contributing to Dems !


6 posted on 08/19/2004 7:28:14 PM PDT by 1066AD
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Is it just me or did they mangle two different accounts somewhere in the middle of this article?
7 posted on 08/19/2004 7:29:36 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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That's where I think they started confusing two different accounts...
8 posted on 08/19/2004 7:30:16 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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Kerry, sign the 180.


9 posted on 08/19/2004 7:32:11 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (When it came to Intelligence, Kerry was absent)
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Somehow the fact that O'Neill is a Democrat does not merit mentioning.


10 posted on 08/19/2004 7:32:12 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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Yeah. They did mess up the accounts. Re-reading it, I assume it was an editorial mistake. Big one, too.


11 posted on 08/19/2004 7:32:35 PM PDT by lavrenti (I'm not bad, just misunderstood.)
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[Mr. O'Neill said during one of several interviews that he had come to know two of his biggest donors, Harlan Crow and Bob J. Perry, through longtime social and business contacts.

Mr. Perry, who has given $200,000 to the group, is the top donor to Republicans in the state, according to Texans for Public Justice, a nonpartisan group that tracks political donations. He donated $46,000 to President Bush's campaigns for governor in 1994 and 1998. In the 2002 election, the group said, he donated nearly $4 million to Texas candidates and political committees.

Mr. Rove, Mr. Bush's top political aide, recently said through a spokeswoman that he and Mr. Perry were longtime friends, though he said they had not spoken for at least a year. Mr. Rove and Mr. Perry have been associates since at least 1986, when they both worked on the gubernatorial campaign of Bill Clements.

Mr. O'Neill said he had known Mr. Perry for 30 years. "I've represented many of his friends,'' Mr. O'Neill said. Mr. Perry did not respond to requests for comment.]
Boy, that settles it. Rove talks to Perry almost once a year. Campaign managers talking to rich people.... I'm shocked!! Shocked!!
12 posted on 08/19/2004 7:32:55 PM PDT by raised by wolves
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It was a little confusing, but it seems to me they validated the Swiftboat vets claims against Kerry at the end of the article...especially his anti-war propoganda.

The article seems to give the vets the "last word"...and IMHO, people usually remember what they read last.

As Mr. Lonsdale explained it: "We won the battle. Kerry went home and lost the war for us. "He called us rapers and killers and that's not true," he continued. "If he expects our loyalty, we should expect loyalty from him."

13 posted on 08/19/2004 7:33:22 PM PDT by dawn53
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How does $200,000 from a Republican compare with $15,000,000 from a Democrat?

Not to mention the $13,000,000 Jane Fonda the Vietnam Witch herself has recently donated to MoveOn.

14 posted on 08/19/2004 7:34:09 PM PDT by what's up
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FWIW, I just made my second $50 contribution to swiftvets.

www.swiftvets.com

15 posted on 08/19/2004 7:37:05 PM PDT by OKSooner
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Senator Kerry lied to the US Senate, about a
strictly factual matter.


16 posted on 08/19/2004 7:37:23 PM PDT by greasepaint
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...and IMHO, people usually remember what they read last.

IF they read to the end.

17 posted on 08/19/2004 7:37:53 PM PDT by Fifth Business
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How does $200,000 from a Republican compare with $15,000,000 from a Democrat?

Republicans are not allowed to have opinions, let alone be able to back them up with contributions. Remember, if you're not a raging leftist, your opinions mean squat to the Slimes and their pretentious ilk.

18 posted on 08/19/2004 7:37:57 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (Kerry is a Sitzpinkler!)
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The actual citation, Mr. Thurlow said, was with an ex-wife with whom he no longer has contact, and he declined to authorize the Navy to release a copy.

OK, if true, this is annoying.

Didn't these guys realize that people were going to look at their medals, if they started attacking his?

Sheesh.

Now we're down to 57 people vs. him. Still pretty convincing to the choir, but it's piddly crap like this that gives the ignorant an excuse to stay that way.

19 posted on 08/19/2004 7:39:21 PM PDT by Egon (Kerry in 1970: Don't suppose he voted FOR assasinating our leaders, before voting against it...)
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And even Dr. Letson said he had not recalled Mr. Schachte

Hilarious. As if Schachte would have gone to the doctor with Kerry. Letson probably doesn't remember the other two guys too. Why would he?

Egregious spin. But since the NYTimes sets agendas for the MSM, this will be the standard article "proving" the Swifties are liars.

20 posted on 08/19/2004 7:40:17 PM PDT by Shermy (Kerry smiled and aimed his finger: "Pow.")
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