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Lost crew heading home after 42 years in icy grave
The Virginian-Pilot ^
| August 19, 2004
| KATE WILTROUT
Posted on 08/19/2004 3:22:36 AM PDT by csvset
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Rest In Peace.
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posted on
08/19/2004 3:22:36 AM PDT
by
csvset
To: csvset
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posted on
08/19/2004 3:25:26 AM PDT
by
endthematrix
(Christians: Are you a day trader or are you investing for the long haul?)
To: csvset; Aeronaut; SAMWolf; snippy_about_it
When I was in high school, I got to take a tour of the Lockheed plant at Burbank. They were building P2-Vs at the time. Those were the ones with the radial engines, not turboprops like the P3s have now.
This should give some closure to the families after all these years.
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posted on
08/19/2004 3:27:45 AM PDT
by
snopercod
("If you wait, all that happens is that you get older." -- Mario Andretti)
To: csvset
Nice story..thanks..Question..if a family years ago received "partial remains"..they obviously held a burial service, had "closure" to use that much overused word, and went on with their lives...If, years later, additinal remains are identified...is another service held, or is the casket exumed, and the newly identified remains combined? Is their protocol for this, or is it a religious issue, or up to the individual families involved?
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posted on
08/19/2004 3:28:33 AM PDT
by
ken5050
(We've looked for WMD in Iraq for LESS time than Hillary looked for the Rose Law firm billing records)
To: snopercod
P2Vs had two radial engines and two jet engines. As we used to say: "two burning and two turning."
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posted on
08/19/2004 3:32:21 AM PDT
by
Aeronaut
(A “sensitive war” will not destroy the evil men who killed 3,000 Americans.)
To: csvset
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posted on
08/19/2004 3:37:10 AM PDT
by
Khurkris
(Proud Scottish/HillBilly - We perfected "The Art of the Grudge")
To: ken5050
Is their protocol for this, or is it a religious issue, or up to the individual families involved?I'm not sure what the protocol is in a case like this. I'd imagine that the family has a say as to the final internment.
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posted on
08/19/2004 3:50:42 AM PDT
by
csvset
To: Aeronaut
P2Vs had two radial engines and two jet engines.Did they use to jets to get up to altitude and the props for cruising?
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posted on
08/19/2004 3:52:52 AM PDT
by
csvset
To: csvset
To: csvset
C'mon home boys. We're grateful, and we're proud of you.
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posted on
08/19/2004 4:17:18 AM PDT
by
theDentist
("John Kerry changes positions more often than a Nevada prostitute.")
To: csvset
My late Dad flew sub chasers in this neck of the woods in the late 50's in Patrol Squadron 10 based in Brunswick ME. I believe they were P-2Bs, though, but I could be mistaken.
He had two tours in Iceland. Suspect that is where he learned to play poker. Wonder if it was the same squadron.
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posted on
08/19/2004 4:49:51 AM PDT
by
the crow
(I'm from the government. I'm here to help.)
To: theDentist
This story closes a chapter in my life, also. I was the air-to-ground radio operator, on watch at NAVCOMMSTA Iceland, when Lima Alpha Niner went down. If it is the same plane, and I am almost certain it is, I can remember still today the feeling we had when we heard the SOS.
In those days Morse code was the means of long haul communications. Naval Communication Station, Iceland was part of what we called the "Barrier." It consisted of radar sites, ships, planes, and submarines that stretched across the arctic circle to Northern Europe. Its purpose was provide "Early Warning" of a missile attack from Communist Russia.
When a P2V was on patrol, we monitored two radio frequencies. Depending on the time of day it could be a 2 meg. freq., or a 9 meg. freq. Usually we monitored both. Policy required that the planes send sitrep's regularly. One of the items in the sitrep was the planes geographic position.
Because it was the mid-watch, and only one plane was up at the time, our supervisor allowed us to monitor the radio by speaker. Except for the crackling coming from the speaker, and the sitrep calls from the plane it was quiet in the radio room. Occasionally, I would call the plane and goof around with the radio operator. We were not supposed to do this, but did so sometimes. It broke the tedium of the long, and usually uneventful watch.
Suddenly, we heard it. Everyone in the room heard it, and sprang into action. I put my headphones on and began to type. Others grabbed pad and pencil, or sat before other typewriters to copy the incoming message. It was an SOS from Lima Alpha Niner. She was so far away, and the reception was so poor that night - reception was alway poor in Iceland - that we could barely hear the message. She kept sending the SOS with her position for a few more moments, and then nothing. Except for the static coming from the radio, the room was deadly silent. We called and called Lima Alpha Niner. The feeling of helplessness was overpowering that night. I'll never forget it.
Years later I can remember passing Greenland in a submarine on my way to the North Pole. When we passed the latitude where the plane went down I took a moment to honor and remember my comrades. God rest their souls. They were hero's!
Pride Runs Deep!
Peter LaFond, RMCS(SS), USN Ret.
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posted on
08/19/2004 5:27:45 AM PDT
by
submarine571
(The Purple Heart Big Lie)
To: csvset
Welcome home, shipmates.
May you rest in eternal peace.
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posted on
08/19/2004 5:56:51 AM PDT
by
DustyMoment
(Repeal CFR NOW!!)
To: DustyMoment
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posted on
08/19/2004 6:03:59 AM PDT
by
cpdiii
( Oil field trash ( and proud of it) turned pharmacist.)
To: Vic3O3; cavtrooper21
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posted on
08/19/2004 6:05:39 AM PDT
by
dd5339
(A sheepdog, a warrior, someone who is walking the hero's path.)
To: csvset
The jets were used primarily for takeoffs and landings. Once at altitude and/or onstation, the jets would be shut down to conserve fuel and extend range.
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posted on
08/19/2004 6:06:17 AM PDT
by
DustyMoment
(Repeal CFR NOW!!)
To: snopercod
Thanks for the ping Snopercod.
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posted on
08/19/2004 6:37:57 AM PDT
by
SAMWolf
(Married men live longer than single men, but married men are a lot more willing to go..)
To: csvset
Heather Nauert of Fox News did a story on these guys a while back and that story is credited with pushing the Navy to go back for them.
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posted on
08/19/2004 6:41:40 AM PDT
by
jackbill
To: submarine571
Thanks for relating your sad experience, Mr. LaFond.
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posted on
08/19/2004 6:49:18 AM PDT
by
snopercod
("If you wait, all that happens is that you get older." -- Mario Andretti)
To: DustyMoment
The P2V I saw being built had a million-candlepower arc light under one wing. IIRC, it had a parabolic reflector about 16" in diameter.
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posted on
08/19/2004 6:51:12 AM PDT
by
snopercod
("If you wait, all that happens is that you get older." -- Mario Andretti)
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