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Posted on 08/17/2004 4:49:53 PM PDT by demlosers
Ten years after the U.S. Air Force closed its books on the claim that a UFO crashed in Roswell, N.M., in 1947, a top Democratic Party figure wants to reopen the investigation into the cosmic legend.
Despite denials by federal officials, many UFO buffs cherish the notion that in early summer of 1947, a flying saucer crashed in rural Roswell, scattering alien bodies and saucer debris across the terrain.
Now Gov. Bill Richardson of New Mexico, who chaired the recent Democratic convention in Boston, says in his foreword to a new book that "the mystery surrounding this crash has never been adequately explained -- not by independent investigators, and not by the U.S. government. ... There are as many theories as there are official explanations.
"Clearly, it would help everyone if the U.S. government disclosed everything it knows," says Richardson, who served as Energy secretary under President Bill Clinton. "The American people can handle the truth -- no matter how bizarre or mundane. ... With full disclosure and our best scientific investigation, we should be able to find out what happened on that fateful day in July 1947."
(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...
Are you saying that shuttle astronauts have seen these phenomena and are keeping mum in public?
I've never witnessed a UFO, but I know three folks who have. All of them credible (to me, at least). I don't need to see a kangaroo with my own eyes to believe that they exist.
Bingo.
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Cool story!
I always like a good flying saucer or Big Foot story. Never believed in the darn things but the stories are fun.
"I thought we already knew it was a weather balloon. "
I can debunk the weather balloon explanation with this.
Major Jesse Marcel was the Intel Officer of the Only Atomically armed Bomb wing (The 509th) in the world at the time.
Major Marcel made the initial observation that it was not "ours". Furthermore he was very adamant that the material he had in his hands was like no other metal he had ever seen before. It had properties to it that no metal we know of today has.
Now, if Major Marcel had made such a GLARING mistake as to misidentify a Weather Balloon (something that went up from Roswell Army Air Field daily) for a UFO, then my question is this.
Why was he not immediately given a compentancy hearing and either forced to resign or at the very least reassigned to another unit?
This was the Intellignence officer of an Atomic Bomb Wing for christ's sake. This was not a simple mistake, this was a glaring case of incompetance from the word go.
However, Major Marcel was not forced to resign, was not given a comptenancy hearing and was not reassigned as a result of this. He was in fact eventually promoted and he eventually left the service.
His boy is a Veterinarian in Montana and has refuted the Govt's claims on many occassions. He saw some of the material that was brought home by his father and to this day has never seen it's equal.
I dont' know what crashed out there in the desert near Roswell, but I can tell you what it wasn't.
It was not a weather balloon.
It wasn't MOGUL either, that secret project had material in it's makeup very similar to what weather balloons used. The MOGUL explanation recently released by the AF is just as much hooey as the original explanation.
Right now Mogul is the official explanation, but it holds no water with the eyewitness accounts nor the the physical evidence that the Air Force claimed it had in 1947.
They watched it float around for a bit, then it took off and turned into a point of light that was ... a star. It was dusk, and stars were beginning to show. They hung around outside for as long as they could watching the star ... and it was just a star.
Husband doesn't talk about it much, never has, but when I've gotten him to discuss it, it basically boils down to this: he struggled because he'd seen something supposedly physically impossible and by definition unbelievable ... yet he knew what he saw. They saw what they saw. The damned thing had windows, for crying out loud!
He was then faced with either having to convince himself that he didn't see what he and fellow witnesses saw ... or he had to face a truth that was just as scary -- that he did see it. Essentially what it did was make him realize that just because "science" or common sense or whatever says something -- like a noiseless anti-gravity machine -- is physically impossible, it isn't neccessarily true. So he has gone on to do "impossible" things, including designing a large structure that engineers told him repeatedly, would not stand up. They were wrong, he was right ... the thing has been up, standing, and operating successfully since 1994 and we hope for many decades more.
The understanding that "impossible" is subjective and illusionary, was what came out of his sighting of the thing.
Solamente and other folks who've seen what others seem to think you only "believe in" -- how has it affected your views of "conventional" reality?
If there were a civilization out there so advanced that they could master interstellar travel, then we would be utterly unable to comprehend their motives for visiting us. The Hawaiians had no idea why Captain Cook had come there.
I swear to GOD that I am telling the truth. I am willing to trade my membership on this forum for it.
Relax, I was being sarcastic :)
Weekly World News is the best, lol.
Sounds to me like Richardson is the point man preparing the path for what Werner von Braun warned about--now that the war on terror and the war on Iraq are well along--the next scheduled one being the war against ET in space.
He's certainly connected with enough Billdo cronies to know something.
Interesting.
Keep them. You never know when you can turn them over for some big bucks on eBay.
Welllllllllllllll, that makes clear how much solid research on the topic you have
NOT
done!
And, evidently you also do not have a close relative who worked around such craft daily in Nevada.
Some of us no longer have the luxury of not believing.
Actually, the recent research study involving I think it was archeologists from UNM and several testing labs around the country demonstrated that metal etc. fragments picked up from there DID
have very, very
uncommon compositions unheared of or unknown before by any of the labs.
NO trouble believing your story totally.
A reasonably common form and size as I understand them.
There's argument about whether there was one crash or 3 crashes in a relatively short time that year in the same general area.
And, supposedly one ET did survive for some time from at least one of the crashes. Some claim a 2nd was alive when they first got to the site but expired shortly thereafter. But I may be mixing crashes up.
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