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1 posted on 08/16/2004 5:06:17 AM PDT by ckilmer
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Notice the lack of correlation between CO2 abundance and temperature.


93 posted on 07/31/2005 6:41:43 PM PDT by StopGlobalWhining (Only 3 1/2-5% of atmospheric CO2 is the result of human activities. 95-96.5% is from natural sources)
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Sounds to me like someone has way too much time on his hands!!!!


94 posted on 07/31/2005 6:51:28 PM PDT by eeriegeno
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Thanks TomServo for the ping. Perspective? During the Medieval Warming period, various towns which are today landlocked, miles from the sea, had docks and direct access via fjords and whatnot. Sometime after the Little Ice Age (Medieval Cooling) began, sealevel fell, and it hasn't budged since 1850.

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99 posted on 07/31/2005 8:00:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Tuesday, May 10, 2005.)
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It appears that nearly all the rise in sea level since Roman times has happened in the past 100 years, and is most likely the result of human activity

The crew has been informed they are to cease ****ing off the side of the ship.

101 posted on 07/31/2005 8:03:28 PM PDT by RightWhale (Substance is essentially the relationship of accidents to itself)
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It appears that nearly all the rise in sea level since Roman times has happened in the past 100 years, and is most likely the result of human activity.

How'd they prove that? How do they know it's not the result of, say, increased polar bear voiding into the ocean?

103 posted on 07/31/2005 8:06:24 PM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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"Tide-gauge records show that the sea level has been rising 1 to 2 millimetres a year since widespread measurements began around 1900, but do not pinpoint when the trend started... The Romans dug these fish pens into bedrock, and the water line in these well-preserved structures shows that the sea level along the Italian coast 2000 years ago was 1.35 metres below today's levels."

Huh. I didn't know there were only ONE HUNDRED millimeters in a meter... ;')


104 posted on 07/31/2005 8:11:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Tuesday, May 10, 2005.)
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Hmm. I'm no expert (except maybe in Roman fisheries) but this raises a lot of questions. How is anyone to gauge by inches the rise of sea level based on a few fish pen markers, in a land of considerable tectonic activity---and not much going on in the way of tides? (This isn't the Atlantic they're talking about, it's the Mediterranean.) Seems to me such marks could have been affected more by the stock of fish than by the minimal Med tide.

This report stinks like garum. (Paste made from pickled, fermented fish guts, much loved by Romans.) Unbelievably sloppy science, ie, no science.


107 posted on 07/31/2005 8:21:41 PM PDT by Graymatter
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This is so stupid because the coasts, everywhere are in a constant state of flux and change. Where we live the mouth of a river has been filling with silt, over thousands of years, filling the bay and creating a spit of land that reaches out toward Canada like a finger. The bay is now nothing more than a tidal sand flat.


108 posted on 07/31/2005 8:24:38 PM PDT by Eva
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Coastal fish pens built by the Romans have unexpectedly provided the most accurate record so far of changes in sea level over the past 2000 years. It appears that nearly all the rise in sea level since Roman times has happened in the past 100 years, and is most likely the result of human activity


Utter out right made up LIE. Does NOT match at all the historic record of what has happened on the British coast for the last 2000 years. File this story under "Hysteric Leftist propaganda made up to give credence to our leftist political bigotry"
110 posted on 07/31/2005 8:26:58 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Iraq is a Terrorist bug hotel, Terrorists go in, they do not come out.)
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It's the same line.
Humans are evil and are the cause of every bad thing on earth. The only solution is to not have humans.

I want global warming. I am negotiating with the the Canadian Citrus Growers Council to plant vast acreages of oranges near Montreal.
I will own the entire fresh orange market in the northeastern United States.
Of course most of Florida will be under water but they will have at least 5 years to move.


112 posted on 07/31/2005 8:28:57 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland
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Letters, he concludes that geological processes pushed the land up by 1.22 metres over last two millennia, which means that the global sea level rose by 13 centimetres.L

So, let me get this straight, in 2000 years the land has risen 122 Centimeters (all of this by some natural means)... and the water has risen in that same amount of time 13 centimeters (all of this because of man).... Oh yea... We got a big problem... NOT.

His conclusion on the water is based upon his conclusion on the land... either of which could be wrong, incorrectly timed, or flat out poppycock....

Wake me when the world floods... I'm sick of this loonieness.

114 posted on 07/31/2005 8:34:01 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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It appears that nearly all the rise in sea level since Roman times has happened in the past 100 years, and is most likely the result of human activity.

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In a paper to appear in the journal Earth and Planetary Science Letters, he concludes that geological processes pushed the land up by 1.22 metres over last two millennia, which means that the global sea level rose by 13 centimetres.

13cm rise from human activity = a whole lotta Pee in the pool . . .

118 posted on 07/31/2005 9:05:19 PM PDT by Petruchio ( ... .--. .- -.-- / .- -. -.. / -. . ..- - . .-. / .. .-.. .-.. . --. .- .-.. / .- .-.. .. . -. ...)
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Ravenna was the primary Roman military port in hte northern Adriatic.

Today it is landlocked.

The sealevel is so much lower that what was the roman military port is now a park in the center of town.
Meanwhile a hundred miles up the coast, Venice is sinking.
All the change in sealevels means is that Italy is tectonically active and parts of it have moved in one direction of the other over time.

SO9

120 posted on 07/31/2005 9:56:32 PM PDT by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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121 posted on 07/31/2005 10:03:14 PM PDT by timestax
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He then analysed how land elevations changed along the Italian coast due to both plate tectonics and the after-effects of the last ice age. In a paper to appear in the journal Earth and Planetary Science Letters, he concludes that geological processes pushed the land up by 1.22 metres over last two millennia, which means that the global sea level rose by 13 centimetres.

He was so precise in his anaysis of the plate tectonics and ice age effects that he could be accurate to a millimeter? Suuuure.

124 posted on 08/01/2005 4:47:15 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (John 6: 51-58)
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btt


130 posted on 08/01/2005 6:19:04 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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