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Official: Charley's Death Toll to Climb [Stacks Of Bodies at Mobile Home Park]
Yahoo News ^ | 8/14/04 | ALLEN G. BREED,

Posted on 08/14/2004 1:42:49 AM PDT by kattracks

PUNTA GORDA, Fla. - The death toll from Hurricane Charley rose early Saturday, when a county official said there had a been "a number of fatalities" at a mobile home park and deputies were standing guard over stacks of bodies because the area was inaccessible to ambulances.

Wayne Sallade, Charlotte County's director of emergency management, said early Saturday that there were "a number of fatalities" at the mobile home park, and that there were confirmed deaths in at least three other areas in the county.

The eye of the worst hurricane to hit Florida in a dozen years passed directly over Punta Gorda, a town of 15,000 which took a devastating hit Friday.

Hundreds of people were missing and more were left homeless, said Sallade, who compared the devastation to 1992's Hurricane Andrew, blamed for 43 deaths, most in South Florida.

"It's Andrew all over again," he said. "We believe there's significant loss of life."

Sallade did not have an estimate on a specific number of fatalities. He said it may take days to get a final toll.

Extensive damage was also reported on exclusive Captiva Island, a narrow strip of sand west of Fort Myers.

President Bush (news - web sites) declared a major disaster area in Florida, making federal money available to Charlotte, Lee, Manatee and Sarasota counties. One million customers were reported without power statewide, including all of Hardee County and Punta Gorda.

The Category 4 storm was stronger than expected when the eye reached the mainland at Charlotte Harbor, pummeling the coast with winds reaching 145 mph and a surge of sea water of 13 to 15 feet.

Charley was forecast to spread sustained winds of about 40 mph to 60 mph across inland portions of eastern North Carolina and to dump 3 to 6 inches of rain beginning Saturday morning, forecasters said. Gov. Mike Easley declared a state of emergency.

In South Carolina, roads clogged Friday night as tourists and residents of the state's Grand Strand — beaches and high-dollar homes and hotels — heeded a mandatory evacuation order. Gov. Mark Sanford had urged voluntary evacuation earlier Friday.

At Charlotte Regional Medical Center in Punta Gorda, 40 people sought treatment for storm injuries. The hospital was so badly damaged that patients were transferred to other hospitals.

"We can't keep patients here," CEO Josh Putter said. "Every roof is damaged, lots of water damage, half our windows are blown out."

Among those seeking treatment was Marty Rietveld, showered with broken glass when the sliding glass door at his home was smashed by a neighbor's roof that blew off. Rietveld broke his leg, and his future son-in-law suffered a punctured leg artery.

"We are moving," said Rietveld's daughter, Stephanie Rioux. "We are going out of state."

At least 20 patients with storm injuries were reported at a hospital in Fort Myers.

A crash on Interstate 75 in Sarasota County killed one person, and a wind gust caused a truck to collide with a car in Orange County, killing a young girl. A man who stepped outside his house to smoke a cigarette died when a banyan tree fell on him in Fort Myers, authorities said.

At the Charlotte County Airport, wind tore apart small planes, and one flew down the runway as if it were taking off. The storm spun a parked pickup truck 180 degrees, blew the windows out of a sheriff's deputy's car and ripped the roof off an 80-foot-by 100-foot building.

Martin said he saw homes ripped apart at two trailer parks.

"There were four or five overturned semi trucks — 18-wheelers — on the side of the road," he said.

In Desoto County outside Arcadia, several dead cows, wrapped in barbed wire, littered the roadside.

The hurricane rapidly gained strength in the Gulf of Mexico after crossing Cuba and swinging around the Florida Keys as a more moderate Category 2 storm Friday morning. An estimated 1.4 million people evacuated in anticipation of the strongest hurricane to strike Florida since Andrew in 1992.

Charley reached landfall at 3:45 p.m. EDT, when the eye passed over barrier islands off Fort Myers and Punta Gorda, some 110 miles southeast of the Tampa Bay area.

Charley hit the mainland 30 minutes later, with storm surge flooding of 10 to 15 feet, the hurricane center said. Nearly 1 million people live within 30 miles of the landfall.

The state put 5,000 National Guard soldiers and airmen on alert to help deal with the storm, but only 1,300 had been deployed by Friday night, a state emergency management spokeswoman said.

At a nursing center in Port Charlotte, Charley broke windows and ripped off portions of the roof, but none of the more than 100 residents or staff was injured, administrator Joyce Cuffe said.

"The doors were being sucked open," Cuffe said. "A lot of us were holding the doors, trying to keep them shut, using ropes, anything we could to hold the doors shut. There was such a vacuum, our ears and head were hurting."

At 2 a.m. EDT, the center of the storm was in the Atlantic Ocean, about 190 miles south-southwest of Charleston, S.C., and moving north-northeast at 25 mph. Forecasters expected Charley to increase in speed. Maximum sustained winds were near 85 mph with higher gusts.

The center was expected to approach the South Carolina coast Saturday morning. A hurricane warning remained in effect from Cocoa Beach, northward to Oregon Inlet, N.C., and a tropical storm warning was in effect on the North Carolina and Virginia Coasts north of Oregon Inlet to Chincoteague, including the lower Chesapeake Bay south of Smith Point.

Spared the worst of the storm was the Tampa Bay area, where about a million people had been told to leave their homes. Some drove east, only to find themselves in the path of the Charley.

"I feel like the biggest fool," said Robert Angel of Tarpon Springs, who sought safety in a motel. "I spent hundreds of dollars to be in the center of a hurricane. Our home is safe, but now I'm in danger."

The fourth named storm of the Atlantic hurricane season, Danielle, formed Friday but posed no immediate concern to land. The fifth may form as early as Saturday and threaten islands in the southeastern Caribbean Sea.

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Associated Press writers Mark Long in Fort Myers, Ken Thomas in Key West, Mitch Stacy and Brendan Farrington in Tampa, Vickie Chachere in Sarasota, Mike Branom and Mike Schneider in Orlando and Bruce Smith in Charleston, S.C., contributed to this report.



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To: Brytani

"figure if an accident happens, they owe us...."


LOL, you have a very positive and humorous attitude about life. Don't ever change, you'll have a happier and longer life because of it. Two thumbs up.


321 posted on 08/14/2004 7:32:34 AM PDT by SunnySide
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To: BunnySlippers

"BTW, if we want to dedicate a thread for Floridians affected by this storm I have no problem with that ... we just need to label it as such. Many people are on this thread that don't live anywhere near it. Me, for instance, in Los Angeles.

I do not mean any disrespect by posting here but lets be clear if this is a private thread."

What is confusing about a thread talking about Hurricane Charley? If the article mentions a hurricane that hit Florida, most of us would probably assume that it's about the people in the path of the storm, not those out in LA. No disrespect intended, I just don't understand what was misleading about it.


322 posted on 08/14/2004 7:35:09 AM PDT by mean lunch lady (Sometimes- the light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train.)
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To: RasterMaster

"They were told to evacuate....they said "we're not going anywhere". I heard one of the residents defiantly saying that yesterday."

We saw an elderly male Floridian with same reply on the news yesterday too. He said he was seventy years old and he wasn't going anywhere. The impression we got was that he basically said, he's had a long healthy life, if a storm takes me out now at 70 yrs of age he doesn't care. What are ya gonna do. Different strokes different folks.


323 posted on 08/14/2004 7:36:42 AM PDT by SunnySide
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To: oceanview
I'm not faulting the forecasters, these things are unpredicatable, but there wasn't alot of pointed emphasis that a cat 4 was coming up charlotte harbor for a direct hit.

I think a lot of people will want to fault forecasters, some local officials included - but note for example from Charlotte County emergency center dispatches below (oldest at the bottom) that despite fact it was not cat 4, residents were advised to leave barrier islands on Thursday and everybody should be out of low areas by Friday am.

Charlotte County Emergency Bulletins

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Date: Friday, August 13, 2004 Time: 11:51:01 AM

Englewood/Cape Haze Can Expect 115mph Winds

Charley’s forecast track now brings it on shore in Manatee County, near the Sarasota/Bradenton line. For Charlotte County, this means dangerously powerful winds of up to 115 mph in the Englewood/Cape Haze area. Residents in this area should expect the highest winds to hit as the storm reaches its nearest point of approach to Charlotte County around 3:00 p.m. today (Friday, August 13, 2004). Winds across the rest of Charlotte County will approach 85 mph as Charley approaches a Manatee County landfall. The change in Charley’s track will bring it within 20 miles of the coast of Charlotte County, producing 115 mph winds sustained for periods of one hour or more. Residents of Englewood and Cape Haze should plan to occupy an interior windowless room such as a bathroom or closet in an effort to protect themselves from any flying glass or projectiles. Storm surge estimates now run as high as 10 to 12 feet above normal. Residents are reminded that once the high winds and rain move out of the area, the storm surge will result in waters continuing to rise. Storm surge levels will not peak until several hours AFTER the worst weather has moved on, so residents should remain in their homes until a final all clear has been given.

Date: Friday, August 13, 2004 Time: 9:27:53 AM

Bridges to Close on Friday Morning

Those residents categorized as “Special Needs” patients who seek transportation to refuge sites must request transport before bridges are closed by the State DOT. Bridges will be closed to vehicles once tropical storm force winds arrive in Charlotte County, which is projected to be between 10:00 a.m. and 11:00 a.m. today (Friday). ONCE BRIDGES CLOSE, THEY WILL BE CLOSED TO ALL VEHICULAR TRAFFIC, INCLUDING EMERGENCY VEHICLES. Special needs patients MUST be relocated to refuge sites BEFORE the order for bridge closure is issued. Residents in low lying, flood prone areas of Charlotte County are urged to consider short distance evacuation as well. Specifically, those under 8 foot elevations in immediate proximity to the Peace River, Charlotte Harbor and the Myakka River should consider short distance evacuation to refuge sites in Port Charlotte. Those sites that are now open include Liberty Elementary, the Cultural Center, and the Port Charlotte Middle School. Evacuees are reminded to bring pillows and blankets for bedding, any medicines required and a minimal amount of food and liquid refreshment.

Date: Friday, August 13, 2004 Time: 9:26:07 AM

Special Needs Shelters Available

Charlotte County has additional beds available in special needs shelters. If you have special needs and would like to move to a shelter, please call 505-4620. The call center will need the following information: What is your specific need? Do you have a caregiver? Can the caregiver transport you, or will you need transportation assistance? You will need to give the call center a contact name and telephone number, and once your request is processed you will be called with further information.

Date: Friday, August 13, 2004 Time: 6:54:44 AM

Update - Hurricane Charley

Tropical storm force winds (over 40 MPH) expected by 10 a.m. as Hurricane Charley moves north in the Gulf off the coast of Charlotte County. Forecasters still target Tampa/St. Petersburg as the area for landfall of Charley early this evening. However, the storm’s track will bring it within 50 miles of Charlotte County’s barrier islands, as it passes to our west at around 3 o’clock this afternoon. There is a mandatory evacuation of barrier islands, RV parks and mobile homes in Charlotte County, and residents of low lying areas (below 8 ft. elevation) are also strongly encouraged to evacuate to higher ground. Specifically, East Punta Gorda, Solona and the Riverside Drive areas of Punta Gorda along with Bayshore, Melbourne and Edgewater Drive in Charlotte Harbor are at risk of flooding from an expected storm surge of 8 to 10 feet by mid-afternoon. Charley will bring winds as high as 90 MPH to coastal areas of Charlotte County, and 50 - 60 MPH across the rest of Punta Gorda and Port Charlotte. Six inches or more of rainfall is expected to accompany the storm, and battering waves along the beaches may exceed 10 feet in height. Refuge sites are open at Liberty Elementary on Atwater in Port Charlotte, the Cultural Center on Aaron Street in Port Charlotte, and Port Charlotte Middle School on Midway in Port Charlotte. Residents are reminded that bridges will be closed to vehicles once tropical storm force winds arrive in Charlotte County, which could be as early as 10 o’clock this morning. Evacuees are reminded to bring pillows and blankets for bedding, any medicines required and a minimal amount of food and liquid refreshment.

Date: Friday, August 13, 2004 Time: 6:53:05 AM

Services Suspended Due to Hurricane Charley

THERE WILL BE NO GARBAGE COLLECTION IN CHARLOTTE COUNTY TODAY (August13, 2004). Residents should bring in trash cans and recycling bins that could become dangerous projectiles in high winds associated with the storm. Trash will NOT be picked up anywhere in Charlotte County today—the normal trash pickup schedule will resume Saturday morning. THERE IS NO SCHOOL IN CHARLOTTE COUNTY TODAY. All public and private schools are closed until Monday. THERE WILL BE NO MAIL DELIVERY IN CHARLOTTE COUNTY TODAY. The main Post Office and branches in Charlotte County are closed until Saturday. GOVERNMENT OFFICES IN CHARLOTTE COUNTY ARE CLOSED TODAY. Non emergency personnel do not report to work until Monday. The Household Hazardous Waste collection scheduled for Saturday, August 14, 2004 has been canceled.

Date: Thursday, August 12, 2004 Time: 8:12:01 PM

Low Lying Areas Strongly Urged to Evacuate

Residents in the following areas are strongly urged to consider evacuating their homes by daylight Friday in advance of Hurricane Charley. The strengthening storm is now forecast to produce a storm surge of up to 10 feet above normal tide levels. Those areas of Charlotte County below 8 foot elevation and subject to the worst flooding threat include: EAST PUNTA GORDA AND SOLONA DOWNTOWN PUNTA GORDA PUNTA GORDA’S HISTORIC DISTRICT RIVERSIDE DRIVE, PUNTA GORDA THE EDGEWATER CORRIDOR, PORT CHARLOTTE BAYSHORE ROAD, MELBOURNE STREET & HARBORVIEW ROAD, CHARLOTTE HARBOR BURNT STORE ROAD, PUNTA GORDA PIRATE HARBOR, PUNTA GORDA EL JOBEAN AND THE CAPE HAZE AREA IN WESTERN CHARLOTTE COUNTY Evacuation is MANDATORY for Charlotte County’s barrier islands and for anyone in an RV or mobile home. Refuge sites are open at Liberty Elementary on Atwater in Port Charlotte, the Cultural Center on Aaron Street in Port Charlotte, and Port Charlotte Middle School on Midway in Port Charlotte. Evacuees are reminded to bring pillows and blankets for bedding, any medicines required and a minimal amount of food and liquid refreshment.

Date: Thursday, August 12, 2004 Time: 6:10:20 PM

Hurricane Charley Has Strengthened

Charley has strengthened … now forecast to reach 121 mph by Friday afternoon… landfall still targeted for Tarpon Springs area north of Tampa. Charley is forecast to pass 50 to 60 miles off the coast of Charlotte County around 3 p.m. Friday. By then, forecasters say Charley will be a Category 3 hurricane, packing winds of 121 mph near the center of the storm. Charlotte County can expect sustained winds of 60 – 70 mph, with higher gusts along the coastline. Residents should prepare by storing lawn furniture and similar items that could become projectiles in high wind. Officials in Charlotte County have ordered a mandatory evacuation of all barrier islands, RV parks and residents living in mobile homes. Those residents of low lying areas along Edgewater, Melbourne, Bayshore, Harborview and in the El Judean area should also consider evacuating. Refuge sites are now open at Liberty Elementary on Atwater in Port Charlotte, Port Charlotte Middle School on Midway Boulevard, and the Cultural Center of Charlotte County on Aaron Street in Port Charlotte. Residents are reminded that bridges will be closed when winds reach tropical storm strength, over 39 mph sustained. Tropical storm winds will likely begin impacting Charlotte County by noon Friday. Heavy rain and tides 6-8 feet above normal may accompany the storm. Charlotte County schools are closed Friday, as are Charlotte County government offices staffed by non-emergency personnel.

Date: Thursday, August 12, 2004 Time: 4:19:31 PM

Mandatory Evacuation of Barrier Islands

CHARLOTTE COUNTY SCHOOLS TO CLOSE FRIDAY. MANDATORY EVACUATION OF BARRIER ISLANDS, RV PARKS, AND MOBILE HOME COMMUNITIES IN CHARLOTTE COUNTY ORDERED AT 3 P.M. TODAY. Forecasters from the National Hurricane Center have moved the landfall of Hurricane Charley slightly north of Tampa, targeting the Tarpon Springs area around 6 pm Friday. We have ordered a mandatory evacuation of all barrier islands, RV parks and those residents living in mobile homes effective at 3 pm today. Refuge sites will open at the Cultural Center in Port Charlotte, Port Charlotte Middle School and Liberty Elementary. Special needs cases—those requiring oxygen or other medical attention—will be taken to a refuge site at Pilgrim United Methodist Church in Port Charlotte. Weather conditions in Charlotte County will begin to deteriorate by 9 a.m. Friday morning as Charley tracks northward. The storm is expected to pass some 50 to 60 miles off the coast of Charlotte County around 3 p.m. Sustained winds of 60 mph can be expected, with gusts to 80 mph. Storm surge of 4 to 5 feet, on top of a high tide of 1.2 feet, could mean waters peaking 5 to 6 feet above normal. Charlotte County Schools will be closed Friday. Charlotte County government offices will close as of 6 p.m. today and remain closed for non-emergency personnel through Friday. There will be no garbage pickup Friday in Charlotte County—service will resume Saturday morning on the normal schedule.

 


324 posted on 08/14/2004 7:37:59 AM PDT by bwteim (Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: Howlin
This has been an ugly thread, IMO, with a bunch of people who don't know what their talking about and aren't in the path of these storms shooting off their mouths.

If you run across a Charley thread without these know-it-all, keyboard cowboys on it, will you please ping me? I want to catch up on FReepers who have missing friends and family, but I just can't stomach the moronic statements. I wish the admins would allow a 'Moron-free Zone' thread to be posted.

325 posted on 08/14/2004 7:39:26 AM PDT by Nita Nupress ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, 6/28/04)
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To: Law is not justice but process

Thanks for the info. I grew up in Ft. Lauderdale and have heard about those two major 'canes but have not really read up on them. It was of course, very sad that so many people lost their lives in those storms and that the mechanism for predicting hurricanes back then was so different from what we have now. It's also strange that they didn't even name them back then. I guess the only ones people talked about were the those that were so terrible no-one could forget them.


326 posted on 08/14/2004 7:40:43 AM PDT by mean lunch lady (Sometimes- the light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train.)
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To: 7.62 x 51mm

"Dammit. Was it in the triler park that the greatest ddamage and deaths occured? I suspect so."

Note to self: use the spell checker, moron.

triler = trailer

ddamage = damage

sheeesh!


327 posted on 08/14/2004 7:43:25 AM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: ican'tbelieveit
Hey, I'm in St. Augustine area. The storm was going to come through here. I prepared (I went through Andrew also). If you are in a Hurricane Warning area it just MAY hit you...Prepare as if it would be a direct hit.

My whole house shook. I could not get to sleep. And I have hurricane shutters.

328 posted on 08/14/2004 7:43:26 AM PDT by vidbizz
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To: LBelle

Three blocks from water, single wide with a storage shed. This was about 4 years ago, I imagine that same trailor would probably sell for well over 300K now.


329 posted on 08/14/2004 7:43:27 AM PDT by Brytani (Stop, hey, what's that sound, it's just John Kerry flip-flopping around!!!)
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To: SunnySide

Toilet training dogs is not difficult, I've done it many times over. My dogs are used to going 8-9 hours from when I was working as well as going to school. Now that I'm just in school full-time, I manage to come home after about 6 hours to let them out.

If you look at my freeper page I've got pictures posted of them along with my cats. They're my babies...I'll admit it.


330 posted on 08/14/2004 7:45:17 AM PDT by Brytani (Stop, hey, what's that sound, it's just John Kerry flip-flopping around!!!)
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To: elfman2

I can't imagine any community not calling for an evacuation of trailers with a storm heading toward their side of Florida. Even a near miss can be devastating for a trailer.

Heck, I can't imagine knowing a storm is on the way, living in a trailer and thinking that a cat. 1 or 2 wouldn't be a big deal, and that I could just go to sleep knowing it's on the way, knowing that it could veer or increase in strength at any time.


331 posted on 08/14/2004 7:46:54 AM PDT by kenth
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To: kenth

some hospital official on FNC now (by phone) - 150 DOA at local hospitals. very bad.


332 posted on 08/14/2004 7:50:43 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: kenth

They did call for mandatory evacuations of mobile homes in the areas Charley hit. People didn't listen to the warnings, as is common when hurricanes are off our coast.


333 posted on 08/14/2004 7:52:28 AM PDT by Brytani (Stop, hey, what's that sound, it's just John Kerry flip-flopping around!!!)
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To: solzhenitsyn
Stacks of bodies? I doubt it.

Fox news just interviewed a hospital official who said there were 100 to 150 DOAs last night. And that's not counting the stacks at the trailer parks.

334 posted on 08/14/2004 7:53:05 AM PDT by Semper911 (For some people, bread and circus are not enough. Hence, FreeRepublic.com)
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To: oceanview

Wow, that's awful.


335 posted on 08/14/2004 7:53:34 AM PDT by kenth
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To: miffmole
... It was also supposed to go further up the state, and fooled a lot of people by going left...

You're right. People evacuated the Tampa area and headed east to Orlando, filling up all the hotels.

Charlie changed course and slammed smack into Kissimmee and Orlando.

336 posted on 08/14/2004 7:54:56 AM PDT by FReepaholic (My other tagline is hilarious.)
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To: Brytani

I grew up in Texas and Oklahoma. Trailers are storm death magnets. I just cannot imagine living in one and not evacuating with a hurricane on the way.


337 posted on 08/14/2004 7:55:39 AM PDT by kenth
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To: Brytani

well, I don't think its that common for people to ignore these - look at how many people fled the tampa bay region. and the barrier islands like Sanibel had almost 100%evacuations. but unfortunately, I think alot of the people that we now know were in the eye, thought it would be mostly a flooding event for them, as opposed to a direct hit from a cat 4.


338 posted on 08/14/2004 7:56:33 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: mean lunch lady

Bizarre. People talk about things going on in the country. Not just things going on in the neighborhood ... although maybe only you talk about local matters. If the thread is closed ... and only people from Florida should be on the thread then state that. Otherwise free speech applies.


339 posted on 08/14/2004 8:01:00 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (Must get moose and squirrel ... B. Badanov)
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To: Semper911

Holy crap! It looked bad on TV this morning at 5am, but I'm at work now and can only get cartoons on this unit w/ its own antenna.


340 posted on 08/14/2004 8:02:00 AM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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