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To: Hildy
so you're psychic huh?

At least twenty people on this forum alone knew he was gay and knew about the Israeli boyfriend whom he was employing. We've been posting about it for years.

I know dozens of people who knew about it from all sorts of varied sources (mine came from a big Republican donor, who said it was openly discussed among many in the party for years, and I also knew about it from a minor player in his campaign organization, where it was known by all. And a Port Authority police sargeant told me years ago that it was common knowledge amongst all cops in the state.)

There were newspaper articles that hinted, not too subtly about it. Paul Mulshine of the Star Ledger wrote yesterday that all the journalists knew. I saw a former state senator on TV yesterday who apologized for knowing about the Cipel situation for years and not doing anything about it. He confirmed that all the other state politicians knew but nobody wanted to be labeled a "homophobe".

McGreevey bought his boyfriend a town house a few doors away from his own house. They vactioned together all the time. EVERYBODY who knew them knew they were lovers, but by no means exclusive, at least from McGreevey's perspective. He had many others.

His first wife is in hiding in Canada with his daughter and has been for years.

The state troopers codename for him was “Slamhole,” for goddsakes!

I don't know why you imagine that his wife is so completely and utterly stupid. With all due respect, your "psychic conclusion" is far less likely than my own. And it insults the woman's intelligence.

34 posted on 08/14/2004 9:24:58 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dead; NYCVirago; Alberta's Child; olde north church
Paul Mulshine, huh?

GAAAAAARRRGGGHHH!!!!

Some people have their "Hanitty", others have their "Mulshine."

Let's just leave it at that.

35 posted on 08/14/2004 9:33:37 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid (Don't want you to hate me. I want you to know you educate me. And make me wanna say, You're bitchin)
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To: dead

To try to understand these perverts is a waste of time. He is dispicable, and needs to get out now! He is a deciever and never should hold any office again. His wife should waste no time to get the hell out and get a real man!


43 posted on 08/14/2004 10:00:09 AM PDT by Old anti feminist
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To: dead; wideawake; Hildy
Dead wrote:

At least twenty people on this forum alone knew he was gay and knew about the Israeli boyfriend whom he was employing. We've been posting about it for years.

I know dozens of people who knew about it from all sorts of varied sources (mine came from a big Republican donor, who said it was openly discussed among many in the party for years, and I also knew about it from a minor player in his campaign organization, where it was known by all. And a Port Authority police sargeant told me years ago that it was common knowledge amongst all cops in the state.)

My standard for something being an open secret is if I've heard about it. And boy, did I hear about McGreevey being gay on this board, in very specific detail, a long time before he officially came out. Heck, when all that was known that McGreevey was going to resign due to a personal matter, wideawake posted very specific details about McGreevey's relationship with Cipel, before the media had issued anything about it.

Anyhow, my point here is that McGreevey's wife had to know he was gay. It seems like everybody else in the state knew! It's like Clinton's womanizing, where Hillary Clinton apparently was the only person in America who pretended to be shocked that he was fooling around with Monica.

And there's one simple way to tell that Mrs. McGreevey knew the score: is there any woman in America who would literally stand by her man and hold his hand when he told the world he preferred men to her, if she didn't already know he was gay? Nobody is that much of a masochist.

44 posted on 08/14/2004 10:00:48 AM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: dead
The word on talk radio now is that McGreevey's homosexuality was known to many on the local scene and that Dina, if not literally hired by McGreevey, went into the relationship with her eyes wide open. It's natural to be skeptical about gossip, but I'm inclined to believe it in this case. You know more about it than I do, and I suspect a lot more will be revealed in the next few weeks or months.

Power, fame, and the high life can be enticing enough for some people to want to latch on to a "rising political star." The McGreevey's aren't the first couple (Clintons, Huffingtons, etc.) to go this mercenary route.

It's certainly a strange story, though. It's as if someone dug up the old corrupt political machines of Tweed, Hague, and Tammany, and crossbred them with ancient Roman vices and excesses. It makes one wonder what old-time disgraced politicians like Jimmy Walker, Earl Long, or Wilbur Mills would think if they could meet McGreevey.

46 posted on 08/14/2004 10:06:59 AM PDT by x
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To: dead
I hope to post the Trenton Tines article on the wives (Kari and Dani) tonight, unless someone does before me. Here's the headline, dead, "Wives steadfastly pro-McGreevey".

I'm not knocking what you've heard ... just reporting the spin.

Btw, The Trentonian head says "GET OUT NOW!"

50 posted on 08/14/2004 10:15:35 AM PDT by bvw
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To: dead

I wasn't talking about him being Gay. I was talking about your assertion that his wife knew, and was in it for the power, or something. They have kids. He was obviously sleeping with her (at least twice). I say lay off the wife. She's a victim of his craziness too.


59 posted on 08/14/2004 12:03:15 PM PDT by Hildy (John Edwards is to Dick Cheney what Potsie was to the Fonz.)
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