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California to rule if SF Mayor had authority to marry gay couples
San Jose Mercury News ^ | patriot11

Posted on 08/11/2004 1:24:10 PM PDT by Patriot11

The California Supreme Court will rule Thursday on whether San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom had the right to issue marriage licenses to more than 4,000 same-sex couples earlier this year.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California; US: Massachusetts; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: gavinnewsom; homosexualagenda; queers; sf
Ruling expected on S.F. licenses to gay couples

By Thomas Peele and Randy Myers

Contra Costa Times

The California Supreme Court will rule Thursday on whether San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom had the right to issue marriage licenses to more than 4,000 same-sex couples earlier this year.

The ruling is not expected to decide the constitutionality of gay marriage in the Golden State, which is being reviewed in lower courts, but only whether Newsom had the right to ignore the voter-approved Proposition 22. If the high court rules against the city, the state attorney general and three city residents are asking the justices to invalidate the marriages.

The decision will be posted at 10 a.m. on the court's Web site, www.courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions, according to a court representative.

``This isn't so much whether the marriage licenses are valid,'' but about whether ``the mayor had the power to order the clerks to perform the ceremonies,'' said Pam Karlan, a Stanford University law professor, on Tuesday.

The high court heard oral arguments May 25 in two cases that raised the issue.

Newsom has repeatedly said the ban on gay marriage violates the California and U.S. constitutions and that he had a duty to defy it. But justices expressed skepticism when they heard arguments.

``It is the city that created this mess,'' Justice Marvin Baxter said then.

San Francisco issued 4,161 marriage licenses to gay couples before the state Supreme Court ordered it to stop March 11. Chief Justice Ronald George said in May that those couples are in ``legal limbo'' while the court decides whether Newsom had any authority.

Karlan said the court might nullify the marriages or rule that Newsom was right and declare the marriages valid. A third, more unlikely scenario would be for the court to rule that Newsom lacked authority, but that the married couples should not be penalized because of his actions.

If the court rules the marriages invalid it will create ``all sorts of havoc,'' Karlan said. ``Many people in the last several months may have done things on reliance that they have this sort of license.''

1 posted on 08/11/2004 1:24:16 PM PDT by Patriot11
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To: Patriot11
``Many people in the last several months may have done things on reliance that they have this sort of license.''

Woopsie!

2 posted on 08/11/2004 1:31:03 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: Patriot11

If the California Supreme Court strikes down California's DOMA, voters' only option is a constitutional amendment to preserve traditional marriage. One wonders why the late William Knight of Palmdale and the sponsors of Prop. 22 didn't take the more difficult route. It would have spared us Gavin Newsom's flouting this state's law.


3 posted on 08/11/2004 1:36:26 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Patriot11

I can't imagine a CA court doing anything else.


4 posted on 08/11/2004 1:39:40 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Scenic Sounds
Round three is about to be completed.

IIRC, the appeal to the US Supreme Court is next.

5 posted on 08/11/2004 1:41:40 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Patriot11
Can't wait to see how the courts rule on this one...because if Gavin Newsom had the power to abrogate the law of California as passed by the people (Prop 22), then I'm going to run for mayor and abrogate all of California's ridiculous gun laws.

Let's see how the Leftists like that.

6 posted on 08/11/2004 2:20:17 PM PDT by Prime Choice (The press is no longer free. Its bias exacts a heavy price with every report.)
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To: goldstategop

Would such an amendment have a shot in that bastion of liberalism?


7 posted on 08/11/2004 2:21:31 PM PDT by Tulane
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To: Patriot11
Gee, considering California's judiciary, I wonder which way this will swing? Hmmm...


8 posted on 08/11/2004 2:22:03 PM PDT by Prime Choice (The press is no longer free. Its bias exacts a heavy price with every report.)
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To: Tulane

In statewide votes, California leans rather conservative. The problem is that the conservatism is spread thinly across the state, while the liberals congregate in large cities, thus skewing the legislative representation.


9 posted on 08/11/2004 2:26:02 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Patriot11

California law says that he, nor anyone else, DOES NOT have the authority to perform gay "marriages". It should have stopped there.


10 posted on 08/11/2004 2:26:09 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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Newsom has repeatedly said the ban on gay marriage violates the California and U.S. constitutions and that he had a duty to defy it. But justices expressed skepticism when they heard arguments.

I'm not surprised that the justices expressed skepticism when they heard arguments because the ban on gay marriage does not violate the California and U.S. constitutions.

11 posted on 08/11/2004 2:26:13 PM PDT by usadave
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IF? Give me a break. This "public servant" thought he was above the law and should pay for his actions dearly.


12 posted on 08/11/2004 2:49:33 PM PDT by vpintheak (Our Liberties we prize, and our rights we will maintain!)
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To: Prime Choice
....then I'm going to run for mayor and abrogate all of California's ridiculous gun laws.

If you do, then you have my vote and a small campaign contribution.

13 posted on 08/11/2004 3:34:08 PM PDT by elbucko (A Feral Republican)
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To: Patriot11
If the court rules the marriages invalid it will create ``all sorts of havoc,'' Karlan said. ``Many people in the last several months may have done things on reliance that they have this sort of license.''

Stupid is as stupid does.

14 posted on 08/11/2004 5:02:56 PM PDT by upchuck (Words from sKerry or Actions from President Bush? You decide.)
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