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Keyes' candidacy will expose rift within GOP
St. Louis Post-Dispatch ^ | 08/07/2004 | Kevin McDermott

Posted on 08/07/2004 7:24:44 PM PDT by Graybeard58

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To: Cedar

If the ump starts changing the strike zone and calls outside balls strikes,

SWING OR STRIKE OUT.


181 posted on 08/08/2004 12:12:30 AM PDT by TomasUSMC
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To: flaglady47

You have no idea just how funny you are,but that's good. We've been laughing AT you for days now.I must say,though,that since dropping the claim of being the thread nanny,your tone hasn't changed at all.


182 posted on 08/08/2004 12:12:45 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: EternalVigilance
If God and the voters of Illinois overule you, will that make you a false prophet?

I love Alan, he is brilliant, he is eloquent, and I will vote for him on any ticket he appears on. But I have so far managed to keep him out of my fantasy life.

If Anna Kournikova calls me up and asks for a date I'll be happy and if Alan wins in Illinois I'll be happy. But I'm not going to sit here predicting either one will happen just because I want them to.
183 posted on 08/08/2004 12:13:05 AM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: ApesForEvolution

Lusting for blood? I wasn't, but I probably should have been, looking back on it now. I supported Keyes in this race, but you've effectively taught me my lesson. I won't make this mistake again. I couldn't care less what happens to him at this point.

Way to go!


184 posted on 08/08/2004 12:14:38 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Some of my best friends are white, middle-class males.)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

I respect your comments, and, in part, agree that Keyes supporters are sometimes - despite my pleas - overly crass.

However, I would ask that you view their comments in the context of having debated nopardons, howlin, and a few other rather strident opponents here for several days.

I have pleaded with both sides for a cease fire. but neither side wants to lay down arms first - perhaps neither side wants to lay down arms at all.

More's the pity.


185 posted on 08/08/2004 12:15:40 AM PDT by WillRain
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To: ApesForEvolution

P.S. If he loses, take a good long look in the mirror.


186 posted on 08/08/2004 12:16:18 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Some of my best friends are white, middle-class males.)
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To: rdf

You are nearly alone in thinking him "not brilliant

oBAmasama also considers Keyes brilliant because he turned his butt around in Mississippi and hauled it back to Jesse's lap at full speed when he heard that Hurricane Keyes was on the way.

Poor Obywanabama. He though it was going to be easy sailing.


187 posted on 08/08/2004 12:16:29 AM PDT by TomasUSMC
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To: Arkinsaw
If Anna Kournikova calls me up and asks for a date I'll be happy and if Alan wins in Illinois I'll be happy. But I'm not going to sit here predicting either one will happen just because I want them to.

I certainly haven't predicted it. I have said it is possible, because it is.

But the chances are lower when our ranks are shot through with defeatist talk.

188 posted on 08/08/2004 12:16:53 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('Impossible' is the favorite word of cowards...nothing is impossible with God...)
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To: WillRain

You're a reasonable person and I appreciate your kindness. Thank you. More people on FR on all sides should be like you (including me).


189 posted on 08/08/2004 12:17:20 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Some of my best friends are white, middle-class males.)
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To: nopardons

Try? Sure.

Succeed? not with anyone who thinks for themselves. and the braind dead are liberals already so no great loss.


190 posted on 08/08/2004 12:18:25 AM PDT by WillRain
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To: NCPAC

You're looking for a conservative icon - and Keyes ain't it.



Correction: Obama ain't it!


191 posted on 08/08/2004 12:18:36 AM PDT by TomasUSMC
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet; ApesForEvolution
Lusting for blood? I wasn't, but I probably should have been, looking back on it now. I supported Keyes in this race, but you've effectively taught me my lesson. I won't make this mistake again. I couldn't care less what happens to him at this point.

Self proclaimed "true conservatives" such as Apes are void of the word tact in their vocabulary.

That said I wish Alan Keyes the best. He will give the radical leftist Obama some competition and bring national attention to the race.

192 posted on 08/08/2004 12:20:18 AM PDT by Dane (Trial lawyers are the tapeworms to wealth creating society)
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To: EternalVigilance
Better than having NO cup at all,which is your plight.

But then,your lengthy screeds are the only allowed...right? Or perhaps the vocabulary threw you. Sorry,I'll dumb it down again,so that you are able to comprehend what I write without having to resort to a dictionary.Or are you just not up to dealing with logic and erudite prose,unless Alan says/writes it? LOL

193 posted on 08/08/2004 12:21:00 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Dane

I tried.


194 posted on 08/08/2004 12:21:10 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Some of my best friends are white, middle-class males.)
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To: ApesForEvolution
I don't know as well as you FRiend, but I heard that Tim crucified himself but good...people forgive, but forget to forget...

If I was given a choice between 1) a man who get a divorce but would stop someone from cutting a baby's head off or 2) a man who did not get a divorce but would not stop someone from cutting a baby's head off the choice would be clear to me.

That WAS the choice in the Hutchinson/Pryor election.

Those who voted against Hutchinson or sat on their hands can stick their nose up and feel morally "pure" for that action if they want. But I'm not going to buy it.
195 posted on 08/08/2004 12:22:58 AM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: ApesForEvolution
Would you care to explain that nonsensical post?

I knew Ronald Reagan.Alan Keyes is NO Reagan;not on any level.

196 posted on 08/08/2004 12:23:08 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

and became more Sarptonesque/Jacksonesque than "principled".



OBAMAPARDONS is wrong again. Sharpton and Jackson love and support the baby killers of abortion. Mr. Keyes is the arch enemy of abortionist.

Hey OBAMAPARDONS, are you for killing 3000 babies everyday?
Are you a homo lover? Obamasama is. Are You?


197 posted on 08/08/2004 12:23:27 AM PDT by TomasUSMC
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To: nopardons

Two further points:

1. What happens here is hardly representative because this place is refuted to be a bastion of conservatism. I make replies here I'd never bother with on my other favorite site because it has no presumption of conservatism, quite the opposite in fact. That being the case, folks tend to get a bit snippy when their definition of "true Conservative" conflicts with someone Else's. It really has little application in the real world.

2. With all due respect, EV and others have not addressed you and those who agree with you one bit more disrespectfully than you and a few others have addressed them. I have no idea who started it but you are BOTH guilty of over the top rhetoric and emotionalism. You need look no further than your last few CAPITAL LETTER SCREAMING RANTS to see that.

Someone here has to be the first to stand down and be an adult. I'd love to see it be keyes supporters, since they are the ones who need to win converts, but from your point of view, it would behoove you to cool your jets if you are going to play the victim of abusive Keyes supporters.

All this crap serves the reputation of neither side.


198 posted on 08/08/2004 12:24:48 AM PDT by WillRain
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To: nopardons

These people flip flop and lie,worse than Kerry



More cheerleading for the Pro Abortion Pro homosexuals by
OBAMAPARDONS


199 posted on 08/08/2004 12:28:04 AM PDT by TomasUSMC
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

I truly would like to maintain a civil tone with you, maam. But there is a lot of history behind this particular battle, and there is precious little grounds for trust.

I get along quite well with most people, and have no desire to be at war with anyone.

But the attacks on Alan are unreasonable and detrimental to the conservative movement.

Whether you like it or not, Alan represents the conservative constituency in our Party...there are damn few who unswervingly do.

If some harsh words on FR have changed your mind about supporting Alan in this race, it seems fair to question the depth of that support.

But Alan's detractors have been overruled. It doesn't matter whether you support him now or not. This seat is not going to be given to the Dems without a fight. You should be glad and just shut up til its over. If that sounds harsh, I'm sorry. But it's the truth.

Many of the folks here who don't necessarily like Alan either have done exactly that, for the good of the cause.

I did the same in 2000. As you know, GW was not my first choice. But when he became the nominee, I threw him my unequivical support, which he has since earned in spades. We still have our disagreements, but I love and respect him as a leader, and work very hard for his reelection.

Have a nice day.


200 posted on 08/08/2004 12:31:13 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('Impossible' is the favorite word of cowards...nothing is impossible with God...)
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