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" Clinton lied for 8 years plus and won 2 elections. Our knowledge and the public perceptions are 2 different things. People hear that Kerry's war service is being trashed, McCain is angry, Bush dirty trick, etc. I agree with Krauthammer - nothing good for the GOP/Bush will come out of this."

We do not know what will ultimately "come out of this". We each do not know if we will be even alive tomorrow.

But, despite all our limitations, we do know this: a group of fine men who served their country honorably and well in the Vietnam war have come forward in all conscience because they cannot tolerate the thought of a lying, cheating, traitorious individual becoming commander in chief and having the lives of our men and women in the armed forces in his forever putrid hands and, indeed, all our lives.

How can decent, honorable men NOT do this? They have no choice because they ARE honorable men. Will we be honorable in moving to support them? Or are we mere observers - neuterized, chattering voyeurs - of the passing scene?

But, despite all our limitations, we do know this: a group of fine men who served their country honorably and well in the Vietnam war have come forward in all conscience because they cannot tolerate the thought of a lying, cheating, traitorious individual becoming commander in chief and having the lives of our men and women in the armed forces in his forever putrid hands and, indeed, all our lives. How can decent, honorable men NOT do this? They have no choice because they ARE honorable men.

As were all Clinton's female victims to one extent or another. My point is political not personal towards these fine soldiers. They could have possibly derailed Kerry when he ran a close race against Weld in Mass., or better yet in the Dem. primaries earlier this year, if their aim was simply to keep him out of power. That said, they have every right to air their views. But what if public perception being as it is, their complaints actually backfire and help Kerry beat Bush? Then their goal is not reached by their own actions. If anything, this should have been handled differently - if ANY of this touches Bush or turns out hyped, lied, or exaggerated, Kerry wins.

JMO, but I'm a big believer in momentum - Bush has been gaining it slowly but surely. Kerry's convention was a bust with little or no bounce. Lurch is doing just fine ruining his own chances, why throw him a life preserver?