there goes az. mccain.. youre a punk.
It's called freedom of speech, McStain. Get over it.
This article makes it seem as though these Veterans against Kerry are just a bunch of gossiping Bush suppoerters at it again. This could have been press release from the Kerry campaign. Spin at its' finest.
Did McCain criticize Moore's fantasy film?
"F" OFF!!!
Bush's response to this is very simple: "I didn't run the ad and I wasn't there. Neither was Sen. McCain. And the men that served with John Kerry defending this country in Vietnam did not lose their freedom of speech the day John Kerry decided to run for office. It's important that none of our veterans' voices are squelched no matter how distateful Sen. Kerry may find their message to be.
Just as Sen. Kerry thirty years ago felt obliged by duty to describe horrific atrocities committed by his fellow servicemen, these servicemen today may feel obliged by duty to describe what they saw."
This is being discussed by Rush at this moment.
AP - Ron Fournier, White House Correspondent rfournier@ap.org
Phone: (202) 776-9400
Fax: (202) 776-9570
Address: 2021 K St NW, Washington, DC 20006
This is what I e-mailed him:
"Ron,
In your story about McCain condemning the Swiftvets ad, you have several inaccuracies.
First, Kerry served on two boats, not one. According to Douglas Brinkley, he commanded the 44 and 94. Also, there were ten crewmates, nine of which support him.
However, as you note in your story, the boats were close together. These boats served normally in groups of three, not by themselves. People on other boats would have seen how Kerry behaved. Also, only one out of 20 or so fellow commanders and superior officers supports Kerry's candidacy.
However, he negotiated with the Viet Cong after the war in Paris and missed 38 out of 49 public intelligence meetings when on the commitee, facts which speak more about his poor qualifications to be President than just his war record."
Shut up, McCain! Have you EVER admitted you were wrong, because you are wrong on this. These vets have the same right to speak that you and Kerry do. My dad was a Vietnam vet (and Korea and WW II) and he disliked the reception Kerry helped orchestrate for the vets returning home. Kerry helped forment the "too afraid to win" atmosphere that made life in Vietnam heck for soldiers and a quagmire for our country - a defeatist mindset that only Reagan and the presidents Bush have pulled us from.
So please, McCain, get a life and realize that some 'Nam vets may reasonably differ from your take on what's approved discourse regarding that war and its combatants.
now that mccain has turned this against bush what will matter is the aggressivness, credibility, and charisma of the book authors. its up to them now to bring this home. if they fail their book will be just another nail in w's coffin.
a loose cannon
* Rush HAS to be following this thread. He's saying almost the same exact stuff.....
YES... I love it! What a pack of fools. It all lies just because they don't believe it. Anything that's bad news against JFin'K is a lie anything that bad news against Bush is true!
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Got through to McCain's Tucson office. Very nice female listened to my concerns about McCain using words like "dishonest" regarding this group.
I pointed to the May press conference the group held where they declared themselves as non-partisan and not affiliated with the Republicans. Their concern was John Kerry being put forth as the dem nominee and they find him "unfit" and that is their concern, not partisan "dirty tricks".
I said I was dismayed that McCain would so hastily imply there might be Republicans pushing the men forward. I said I watched the May press conference and I have seen the ad on the internet. I said these men had eyewitness stories to tell and that they were Vietnam Vets, too, just like John Kerry and Senator McCain and they deserved the respect and chance to have their voices heard. I added that I found the men serious and credible.
Finally I said it is frustrating to see attack after attack on GWB from Moore, Clarke, Wilson and so on, with charges that time after time turn out to be false, and I don't see Senator McCain stepping forward to as vociferously denounce those. I did say I was sure the media ran like the wind to get comment from him on this as it was about "Vietnam" and I would like him to step back and not be so quick to denounce or use words like "dishonest" when to what I can see these men appear to have something to say that looks to be true.
She was nice and took my name and address. I'm sure I will receive the usual form letter thanking me for calling. I did ask if she'd heard about the ad and received other calls. She said yes, she'd received about 4 calls.
Hey, can we have a Free Republic poll: "should the White House condemn the ad?"
So how long until Hollywood comes out to protest "censorship" ?? (cue the cricket sound)
Wow! Anybody hear or read the reply to McCain from the Swift Boat Veterans? Pure class and a devastating ending statement. Paraphrasing...
"...we served with John Kerry, we knew him well, and Senator McCain did not."
McCain must be angling for more oral gratification from Catty Kouric this year. I can't believe Bush is going to let this dirtbag speak at the convention.