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HOT!!! CHAPTER THREE, "THE PURPLE HEART HUNTER" FROM "UNFIT FOR COMMAND"
Human Events Online ^ | August15th, 2004 | John O'Neil

Posted on 08/04/2004 6:45:30 PM PDT by Remember_Salamis

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I'm afraid that Kerry could drop out in early Sep if "Unfit For Duty" gets major exposure. What if the GOP goes into the convention 10 - 15 points up, and then Bush gets a HUGE bump out of the convention? Does anybody really think the Democrats will keep a candidate 20 - 25 points down with no chance to win? What are the legalities regarding putting Shrillary on the Ticket? What are Edwards' chances of winning after a Kerry drop-out???


61 posted on 08/04/2004 8:21:36 PM PDT by Remember_Salamis (Freedom is Not Free)
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To: wingman1
"Your question is a fair one, but I have to answer that I can change my mind (or what I have written in my profile) only when ALL the facts have been presented."

I've seen and heard enough of Kerry's "facts".

62 posted on 08/04/2004 8:25:04 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: gilliam
f most of Kerry's fellow Swift veterans don't support him, then who were all those guys with him at the Democratic Convention? They made it appear that Kerry has the complete support of his "Band of Brothers" from Vietnam.

Well ask his crew member supporters if they were with him when he committed the war crime s he testified to
63 posted on 08/04/2004 8:26:43 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: Remember_Salamis

SHEEESH! What a puke!


64 posted on 08/04/2004 8:28:54 PM PDT by mercy
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To: Remember_Salamis
I think that this is an impressive piece of work - detailing the overlapping and reinforcing impressions of a large number of veterans who really have no incentive to conspire and lie about Kerry. 

On the other side you have Kerry - who has shown so many instances of having a consciousness early in adulthood that he was building and grooming for a political career and maybe a shot at the Presidency. 

I do not trust people like that. Most people, and I'm sure a majority of voters, do not.

Bill Clinton had his moment meeting John F. Kennedy - and then using a lot of intelligence and a chameleon-like ability to reshape himself (mimicking Kennedy and, in some stolen mannerisms and affectations, Reagan) to leverage his way to the White House.

Kerry is the same kind of climber that Clinton is - just without the capability of projecting charm. Because of that - I think it will not be long before some in the Democratic Party power structure will be hauling out the rulebook to find out what the procedures are when a Presidential Nominee falls off the ticket in say, September. In this book, I hear the sound of the proverbial excrement hitting the fan. It's like music!

65 posted on 08/04/2004 8:30:05 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Remember_Salamis
What are the legalities regarding putting Shrillary on the Ticket? What are Edwards' chances of winning after a Kerry drop-out???

Bumping your question -- hope when I wake up tomorrow someone has answered it!

66 posted on 08/04/2004 8:32:47 PM PDT by MissLuluBelle
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To: ClintonBeGone
This was Cam Ranh Bay, an in-country R&R center, as well as a major headquarters, second only to Saigon. I never heard of anyone getting a Purple Heart at Cam Ranh, and I was there the day Kerry got his.
67 posted on 08/04/2004 8:39:28 PM PDT by js1138 (In a minute there is time, for decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse. J Forbes Kerry)
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To: KevinB
Even his parents couldn't stand the POS!

Kerry must stand to account for his adulthood, certainly. But his parents are responsible for his childhood. If his parents couldn't stand him or want him, whose fault is that?

68 posted on 08/04/2004 8:39:59 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: wingman1
Your question is a fair one, but I have to answer that I can change my mind (or what I have written in my profile) only when ALL the facts have been presented.

Sober and reasonable.

69 posted on 08/04/2004 8:40:57 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: js1138
This was Cam Ranh Bay, an in-country R&R center, as well as a major headquarters, second only to Saigon

In other words, Kerry was still bored and was out having fun blasting away rocks? That's the impression I got from the story.

70 posted on 08/04/2004 8:46:31 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: woofie
I would li,ke to know about the group of Vietnam Vets who are supporting Kerry ...How many really knew him ? what is their motivation?

$$$$

71 posted on 08/04/2004 8:49:34 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: woofie

"I would li,ke to know about the group of Vietnam Vets who are supporting Kerry ...How many really knew him ? what is their motivation?"


Clearly, you have never been in the Military. Everyone does bitch while in, but everyone also values the fact that they did serve and the friends they served with. Kerry has brought a shameful amount of scorn and potential dishonor on his unit and his fellow squids - I served in VN and am also offended by this lout's words!


72 posted on 08/04/2004 8:50:57 PM PDT by Chu Gary (USN Intel guy 1967 - 1970)
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To: zip; BOBWADE

ping


73 posted on 08/04/2004 8:51:57 PM PDT by Mrs Zip
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To: gilliam
Schedule of Swift Veteran Appearances M

It's about time the word is finally getting out. The lefts fascist propaganda has silenced many from speaking out against a "proclaimed" war hero, but the cream always comes to the top in the end. The truth will set Kerry free. He won't have to lie anymore.

74 posted on 08/04/2004 8:53:03 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: secretagent

Thanks. Vietnam is very personal to all who served. I wish Kerry would go away, but we have to see his defeat through until the end.

Reading the chapter of the book brought back alot of memories for me. The people on the sampan had to be dealt with as enemy combatants. They were out at night (there was a 6PM curfew in my AO) and were fair game. From my experience, it would be unlikely (for numerous reasons) that the VC or NVA would have stayed around to fire back. Therefore my initial reaction is that they DID NOT return fire. However, I wasn't there. So...

The fog of war is very real.

We had a friendly fire incident in our company when I first arrived. 32 years later, at one of our reunions, several of us were talking about it. Each person had a different take on it. One guy even placed the blame on the wrong guy - he had gone all those years thinking that! It turned out each person was wrong on their take - or had at least gotten one detail wrong. How do I know? I had a better vantage point and was in the platoon that was responsible for the accident.



75 posted on 08/04/2004 8:56:24 PM PDT by wingman1 (Hey Kerry. Why the long face?)
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To: wingman1; js1138
"Christmas Eve 1968 I received my draft notice.

Luxury. I was already toughing it out in Nam. See Post #42."

I was in the far North end of the Gulf of Tonkin on my destroyer Christmas '68

Johnson had ended Rolling Thunder Oct 31

We were "up there", alone, with no backup.

Distance to shore was less than 1/2 mile or closer.
76 posted on 08/04/2004 9:01:27 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Thank You Troops : Present, Past and Future)
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To: Sola Veritas
"I would li,ke to know about the group of Vietnam Vets who are supporting Kerry ...How many really knew him ? what is their motivation?"

I don't fault the guy he pulled out of the river. But I wonder also about the others. And the flag and general officers too - Gen Merrill McPeak, USAF is inexplicable to me. At least Adm Crowe was a Clinton/Gore supporter through two elections.

77 posted on 08/04/2004 9:09:09 PM PDT by jimfree (Never did no wanderin' after all.)
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To: wingman1
We had a friendly fire incident in our company when I first arrived. 32 years later, at one of our reunions, several of us were talking about it. Each person had a different take on it.

This explains to me your caution re Kerry debunking.

78 posted on 08/04/2004 9:14:30 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: Remember_Salamis
He got hit by a piece of shrapnel from a grenade that he had fired himself.

Now I understand why Max Cleland has such an affinity for Lurch.

79 posted on 08/04/2004 9:27:05 PM PDT by omniscient
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To: dennisw

That picture reminds me of the doctor from Escape from LA that was gonna cut up Pliscan for spare body parts.


80 posted on 08/04/2004 9:27:31 PM PDT by Havoc (.)
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