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To: Hatteras

"...when I detected many conservatives beginning to care more about power than principles. The right began to seem less interesting to me--more whiny, more shallow--and, what's more, in what I saw as an uncritical devotion to President Bush, often in retreat from its best insights about human nature."

I noticed that you apparently slept through the 8 years of Bill and Hillary Clinton so it would be useless to discuss anything with such an open-minded individual as I'm sure you are.

Adios, my friend.
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Hatteras, I didn't sleep through the Clinton presidency. I often opposed it--as many on the left did. one of the frustrations with my dialogues with folks on FP is that people believe some fantasy that everyone on the left adored Bill Clinton.

Here's some of my critical articles about the Democratic status quo on trade issues and others (there are many more, but how much Perlstein can a fella stand to read???)

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0111/perlstein.php
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0203/perlstein.php


157 posted on 08/03/2004 12:54:01 PM PDT by Perlstein
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To: Perlstein
Hey, Rick: here is a quote from Reinnhold Niebuhr:

Nothing which is true or beautiful or good makes complete sense in any immediate context of history; therefore we must be saved by faith. Reinhold Niebuhr

I think that sums up exactly the situation in Iraq. I have faith in God and America.

Why do you believe that Iraq must become true and make complete sense in the immediate context of history?

171 posted on 08/03/2004 12:56:39 PM PDT by Cogadh na Sith (I shook my inner child until its eyes bled...)
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To: Perlstein

I have NO desire to read your articles in the Village Voice. If you came here to advertise, you picked the wrong demographic.


183 posted on 08/03/2004 12:58:43 PM PDT by sissyjane (You're either with us or against us.)
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To: Perlstein; dead

DING DING DING We have a winner..we all can agree on something....

"but how much Perlstein can a fella stand to read??"


186 posted on 08/03/2004 12:59:24 PM PDT by alisasny ("I will leave no hampster behind" John F'en Kerry : ))
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To: Perlstein
"I didn't sleep through the Clinton presidency. I often opposed it--as many on the left did."

But the Left was there in unanimously voting NOT to hold Clinton responsible for his Perjury and Obstruction of Justice, despite knowing Slick Willie is a Rapist (Broaddrick, others), a Mass-Murderer (see Waco, Kosovo) and a TRAITOR (see selling WMD secrets to the Chi-Coms). The DemonRAT Party forever embarrassed itself in kowtowing to the Clinton Administration and refusing to hold a blatantly GUILTY man responsible for his crimes against this Country!!

FReegards...MUD

191 posted on 08/03/2004 1:00:11 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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To: Perlstein
Hey Perlstein, Have you hugged your burqa today? Wear a burqa 24-7, until then as your queen -Teresa Peron said, "Shove it" (((( NO to GLOBAL misogyny ))))
197 posted on 08/03/2004 1:01:18 PM PDT by SunnySide
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To: Perlstein
one of the frustrations with my dialogues with folks on FP is that people believe some fantasy that everyone on the left adored Bill Clinton.

Not fantasy, merely clear perception. It is refreshing to hear voices like Susan Estrich (sp?) and Dick Morris today, but from 1992-2000, those voices and/or opinions were never given airtime. The rallying around Clinton, no matter the personal costs, was breath-taking, in so many ways. (I actually have some respect for Susan McDougal, for at least refusing to lie under oath to protect him... but she was "loyal" enough to refuse to answer. She spent, what, 18 months behind bars simply because she didn't want to answer, "What did Bill know and when did he know it?")

The clearest example was in the impeachment vote. Several representatives acknowledged his guilt, yet refused to vote to punish him. It was almost surreal. It was the first major signs of the collapse of the New Left, and in retrospect I'm glad for it. Since Cliton's near-cannonization by the Left, your side has lost about 13% of both Houses of Congress, and numerous governorships. Was it really worth it?

211 posted on 08/03/2004 1:05:12 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Perlstein

Again, debate with your original thoughts, not with articles written before.


623 posted on 08/03/2004 3:42:55 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Perlstein
..here's some of my critical articles about the Democratic status quo on trade issues...

*Another* link to the Village Voice, instead of a proper reply?

This must be the best laugh of all for you- more Freepers reading your turgidity, than liberals.

650 posted on 08/03/2004 3:57:11 PM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/popup2.html)
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