Kerry vs Bush in Grand Rapids Michigan

High True with Tomas | 2 August 04 | TomasUSMC

[exnavy]

Well done Marine, thanks for the report(salutes smartly) carry on.

[EdJay]

I read this about Kerry's Grand Rapids appearance at http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/michigan/index.ssf?/base/news-17/109148034046390.xml

"Aug. 2, 2004: In two Grand Rapids appearances, Kerry spoke in the morning to several dozen firefighters outside a fire station, then took part in a downtown rally in the afternoon that drew what police estimated to be between 20,000 to 25,000 supporters to Calder Plaza outside City Hall."

20,000 to 25,000 sounds like a pretty big crowd. Is that an accurate crowd estimate, do you think? Is that a big crowd for Grand Rapids?

Was also wondering -- WHY on earth would FIREFIGHTERS let Kerry come and address them? I mean, he can't just come and plop himself down in front of a fire station and benefit from the photo op of being seen with firefighters, can he? Somebody had to authorize it. WHO? AND WHY???? Does he have supporters among those firefighters?

[TomasUSMC]

We have here in Grand Rapids a kumbaya democratic mayor, whos first order of business as mayor was passing the resolution against the Patriot Act. So he probably gave the word. It was first announced as 8000, then 10, then 12 and when Kerry came on stage he announced it as 20,000.

[old and tired]

the medicated one

Have other people picked up on this? I saw Mrs. Heinz on the Pennsylvania Cable Network giving a speech out in Harrisburg and I swear she looked and sounded drunk. The only innocent explanation I could come up with is that it's some foreign thing that makes her act that way and not booze and/or pills.

[TomasUSMC]

One of the first lines the President had in GR was that there were many reason for his reelection but maybe the best one was that Laura Bush would be in the White House.

[Redbob]

You don't think she's on drugs, you didn't see her speech at the Convention!

[old and tired]

You're right I didn't. And I was down the shore at the time and without high speed internet access didn't bother to see what people were saying.

I'll search on the FR threads for her speech.

[F.J. Mitchell]

Maybe the Mayor was wetting his whistle from a pocket flask and by the time Kerry got up to babble, the crowd did look like 20,000 to your Mayor.

[no dems]

Grand Rapids has, historically, been a GOP area. Who had the largest crowd? The Prez or JFK?

[My2Cents]

WHY on earth would FIREFIGHTERS let Kerry come and address them?

Their union supports him, probably.

[TomasUSMC]

The john had the larger crowd. President Bush spoke at the fieldhouse which was filled at 4000. Today, there were twice that many at the outdoor downtown event. The GOP might consider more outdoor events but security might be an issue.

[AuH2ORepublican]

*PING*

In 2000, Gore beat Bush 50.4%-46.5% in Grand Rapids and 51.3%-46.1% statewide, making the city of Grand Rapids as much of a bellwether as any other part of the state (the county that came closest to the actual results was Monroe County; long-vaulted Macomb County was less Democrat and more Republican than the state as a whole). If Bush can carry Grand Rapids, it could be a harbinger of better performance throughout the state, and if Bush carries Michigan, he will win reelection with over 350 electoral votes.

[AuH2ORepublican]

"Grand Rapids has, historically, been a GOP area."

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The area surrounding Grand Rapids is still among the most Republican in the nation, but the city of Grand Rapids itself now leans a bit to the Democrats.

[BushisTheMan]

You need to SEE the speech -- not just read it. The pausing that occurred between each phrase for emphasis. The crossing of arms to her chest meaning I love you all.
The accent. The speaking in multiple languages to emphasize her background. Here's a summary:

ME ME ME ME ME ME ME MYHUSBANDJOHN
ME ME ME ME ME ME ME MYHUSBANDJOHN
ME ME ME ME ME ME ME MYHUSBANDJOHN
ME ME ME ME ME ME ME MYHUSBANDJOHN
ME ME ME ME ME ME ME MYHUSBANDJOHN
ME ME ME ME ME ME ME MYHUSBANDJOHN
ME ME ME ME ME ME ME MYHUSBANDJOHN
ME ME ME ME ME ME ME MYHUSBANDJOHN
ME ME ME ME ME ME ME MYHUSBANDJOHN
ME ME ME ME ME ME ME MYHUSBANDJOHN

[TomasUSMC]

Your Grand Rapids, MI Townhall Meetup is happening -- please
join Townhall.com Enthusiasts on Tuesday, Aug 3 @ 7PM. We hope
to see you there.

Here are the details:

What: National Conservative Townhall Meetup Day
When: Tuesday, Aug 3 @ 7PM
Who: Townhall.com Enthusiasts and friends
Where: Urban Mill
235 W. Fulton St
Grand Rapids, MI 49503
616-458-6455

Yaall come on down, WE'VE TURNED THE CORNER AND WE ARN'T GOING BACK!!!!!

[TomasUSMC]

Hey, exnavy, are you the one who calls the Roger Fredinburg Show on Talkone.com. ? Its on from 10pm to 1am eastern time.

I believe there is someone in that shows chatroom who uses your "Exnavy". Might want to check it out at Regularguy.com

[exnavy]

Nope that's not me, I'll check it out though. I'm over here in Grand Haven, John F'in is supposed to cross Lake Michigan on the cross lake ferry tonight:

"I'm John Kerry, I'm a Viet Nam veteran, this ferry boat reminds me of the swift boats I commanded in Viet Nam. Did I mention I was a Viet Nam veteran ..." LOL

[RepublicanHippy]

Hey Tomas. I was going to be downtown with a protest sign and stand with like-minded persons but opted against it. Somehow I was not motivated to go out in 90 degree heat to watch the Kerry's make fools of themselves.

Did you happen to catch Teraaaazzzza when she went off about all the little children in the world and needing our help - but, she said, "it's not about money" it's about giving smiles to them or something like that? Talk about being uncomfortable - I was so embarrassed for her I started squirming in my seat. She's nuts. And she dresses like a slob... and that goofy hat down over her eyes - OMG!

[TomasUSMC]

Yeah it was hot, and there were about dozen leftys who passed out. I guess the soya-vegan-tofu regimen ain't all that good for standing in the sun and listening to lies.