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To: Cronos


Is it really fairer in India ?????

I doubt it. and why ?

Because of the CASTE -SYSTEM in HINDUISM that ensures(institutionalizes) that the lower castes will FOREVER REMAINs lower caste (ie in perpectuity), for generaions after generations. The lower castes cannot get out off ther inferior castes except when they convert their religion from HINDUISM to CHRISTIANITY or ISLAM

Looking at Chinese History, Chinese society had always very high SOCIAL-MOBILITY. Peasants can become EMPERORS, eg, the first MING Emperor. Peasant children ,through their ability, were allowed to sit for the Annual Civil-Service Examinations, and if they scored well , could become high -ranking Government Officials in the Imperial Civil-Service. And those peasants good in KUNG-FU can become Generals

And today, a lot of Chinese millionaires rose from the ranks of the poor/peasant class, and more are are joinning in


13 posted on 08/06/2004 12:12:44 AM PDT by Smiling-Face TIGER
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To: Smiling-Face TIGER
Is it really fairer in India ?????

Yes, it is, because for 50 years the govt has tried to help the lower castes by giving them preferential treatment in school and job admissions. It hasn't worked (we've now got the phenomenon of uneducated doctors - dalits who dont know jack shit but got into med school because of the quotas) but atleast the govt tried to help.

Lower castes in India (as well as muslims, who are mostly poor and illiterate) face similiar problems as blacks in the USA - i.e., family poverty means no education, which means no good jobs which means more poverty.

The legal and insititutionalized discrimination is all gone, and although social discrimination exists, this is not much diffrent to racism in the US - it's there, but it can never be realistically completely eliminated.

In today's India though, your achievements depend more on your talent than anything else - India's ex-president (K R Narayanan) was a dalit. India's current president is a Muslim (albeit a Ph.D. holding one) from a poor family. Hell, even the chief author of the Indian constitution (B R Ambedkar) was a dalit, and a dalit-rights activist at that, 50 years ago.

And most importantly unlike China, there are no LEGAL barriers to mobility, both of the physical and the social kind. As for social barriers well, you're on your own on that one like you are in all other countries.

And like the Hispanics in the USA, the dalits have in the past 15 years or so organised themselves into a very powerful voting block that basically every politician has to ass-kiss.

Ofcourse, you don't even know what a voting block is in China do you?
14 posted on 09/18/2004 6:05:39 AM PDT by qwerty_ca
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