Posted on 07/29/2004 6:51:42 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim
The Hill
September 9, 2004
Kerry's stuck in a Vietnam quagmire of his own making
by David Keene
When John Kerry and his managers decided to make his service in Vietnam the centerpiece of his presidential campaign, they must have forgotten that "quagmire" is the word most often associated with that still-controversial conflict. In the days since the conclusion of the Boston Democratic convention, a quagmire is exactly what Kerry has been mired in. Men who served with him in Vietnam have alleged that he isn't quite the hero he claims to have been or that, at the very least, he renounced the right to brag about his service when he denounced the military that honored him for his service at the time. Only the men who were in Vietnam with him know what really transpired there, but it's the reminders of Kerry's activities after he got home that haunt his prospects more than who's right or wrong about what happened there.
So much has already been written about all this that I decided some time ago to ignore the whole thing. I don't know whether he acted honorably or not, but he was wounded in Vietnam after joining the Navy Reserve and being activated. He was lucky, of course, in that his wounds were not as serious as they might have been, but a man shouldn't be condemned for being lucky.
I changed my mind, though, after a recent conversation with my daughter, who joined the Army a year or so ago and actually wants to get over to Iraq to do her bit. She reminded me that it is not Kerry's opposition to the Vietnam War that makes her and many in uniform today so unlikely to vote for him. After all, she wasn't even born when Kerry came home from Vietnam and, like most of her generation, has been taught that the war we fought there was a disaster. So Kerry's opposition doesn't really bother her or her friends.
What bothers them, she told me, was that on his return to his country, he turned on those who fought beside him and those who were still in Vietnam. He argued that the war was immoral because we are immoral and made it clear that he believed that the men and women who volunteered or were drafted to fight it were monsters bent upon torturing and
murdering innocent men and women in a far-away country. That, she reminded me, was far different from arguing that the Vietnam War was the wrong war, fought in the wrong place at the wrong time, or that it was a war we couldn't win, given the constraints under which it was fought.
She said that she could never vote for a man who turned on his comrades as Kerry did when he got home. Those who believed Kerry and those like him spit on returning soldiers and made it difficult for those who had served at least as honorably as Kerry to hold their heads up on their return. No wonder they were mad.
Kerry could hold his head up because he returned with an eye on a political career in Massachusetts, where many more voters seemed to share his antipathy for all things military than was true of most of the rest of the country in those days. It would be cynical to suggest that his opposition to the war and those who fought it was dictated by ambition, but what is one to make of Kerry's rhetorical fantasy about being forced into Cambodia on Christmas Eve of 1968 by Richard Nixon, a man who while reviled in Massachusetts, wasn't even president at the time?
It seems that Kerry called one of the veterans who appeared in the second advertisement run by the Swift boat veterans, and, during the course of a rambling conversation, hinted that he didn't understand why
the man was mad at him, since his attacks were directed not at his Navy comrades but at the infantry. He also apparently asked if it would make any difference if he were to apologize.
The veteran told the presidential wannabe that he could do what he liked, but as far as he was concerned it wouldn't make any difference because of the damage he did when he originally turned on those with whom he served.
Quagmires, it seems, are easier to get into than to escape.
David Keene, chairman of the American Conservative Union, is a managing associate with the Carmen Group, a D.C.-based governmental affairs firm
"Ripple!!"
(To be sung to the Grateful Dead's "Ripple")
If my words did flow...from the radio with Limbaugh...
And my tunes were played...on that M-TeeVee...
Would you hear my views...comin' thru the music?!
Would you hold them near...as if they were your own?!
I can't help myself...my thoughts must be spoken.
Perhaps, they're better...left unsung.
Yes, I know...you don't really care.
But, FReedom songs'll...soon fill the air!
Ripples from WhiteWater...
If you feel no sense of loss...you have no soul!!
Raise up your voice...tell folks why you're angry!
All our Nukes were sold...Cold War starts a-gain!!
Let it be known...seek Justice for Clinton...
'Cuz we have Laws...we'll CONVICT this "man"!
Bill must be told...to take the highway!
Take it! Be Gone! And we'll make it Right!
And once Slick goes, Left's Cadre will follow...
Justice demands...they're all sent Home!
Ripples from White Water...
When you fail to raise your voice...no one will know!!
Yes, you can choose...to keep your silence...
But once Slick falls...you're all alone!
Folks, we must stand...against Bill's TREASON...
Yes, we'll find a way...Prison's Left's Traitor's HOME!!
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Mudboy Slim (6/29/99)
free the southland,sw
FReegards...MUD
she is going on a CRUISE starting Sunday (with "judyjudyjudy", her HS chum) for 8 days, while i get to go to work & take care of "Max" the dog.
after waiting on her hand & foot for 1/2 the summer i should be the one going on vacation!
free dixie,sw
FReegards...MUD
Congrats to all FReepers involved in this unmasking of the Left...MUD
and...
more Gandhi: "The only things that separates us from the brute, with which we have so much in common, is the capacity to distinguish between right and wrong."
FReegards...MUD
FReegards...MUD
"FReedom is THE Way!!"
(To be sung to Eric Clapton's "Lonely Stranger")
Right remains divisible...
'Cuz our thinking's FRee!!
I have joined...in many FReeps...
Defendin' Liberty!!
Right was born with a righteous quest...
Wise hunger to be FRee!!
Parents taught, "Never Fear!!"
RATS discourage me.
'Cuz Right is only Nat'ral, Left...
FReedom is THE Way!!
Sheeple must learn whats goin on...
Truth shall win the day!!
Yes, it will...yes, it will...yes, it will...
Walk the walk...stand and fight!!
FReedom is not FRee!!
Left, it tries...to stoke our fears...
So just let RATS be!!
Leftists say, "Big Guv'ment's GOOD!!"
RINOs, they agree...
RATS're hooked...on Welfare pay...
Thats not Right to me.
'Cuz Right must overcome Left's fears...
FReedom is THE Way!!
Med'yuh dont know whats goin on...
Folks, Right shall make Slick pay!!
Yes, it will...yes, it will...yes, it will...yes, it will...yes, it will...
"FReedom is THE Way!!"
Mudboy Slim (05/27/2004)
"Right's Empowered!!"
(To be sung to U2's "I Will Follow!!")
Right shall follow...
I am from the RightWing, RINOs say,
"Mudboy, come vote fer me-ee!!"
But I'm lookin' fer Guv'ment...
That's benign, yet keeps me FRee!!
Mudboy tries hard to make a stand...
'Gainst Lib'rals who CORRODE this Land!!
Won'tcha stop and think...RATS always LIE!!
Left LIES!!!
DubYOO, lead the way...lead the way...
Dude, win the day...win the day...Right will follow!!
DubYOO, cut today...cut today...
Yeah, Left'll cave...Left'll cave...Right's Empowered!!"
I am from the Far Right...
Wanna shrink Big Guv'ment down!!
Right must triumph 'gainst Dem Lib'rals...
Righteous Cause...Devolve Power!!
Lead the way...lead the way...
Let's cut today...cut today...growth will follow!!
DubYOO, lead the way...lead the way...
Let's cut today...cut today...Devolve Power!!
Right shall follow!!
(Guitar jammin' interlude)
RATS' lies show no wisdom...
Right FReeps Truth, "Life ISN'T Fair!!"
RATS lie!! Left lies!! RATS spy!! yea yea...CONSPIRE!!
DubYOO, lead the way...lead the way...
Yeah, cut today...cut today...Right Shall Follow!!
FReepers, kneel and pray...kneel and pray!!
Let's save the day...save the day!! Right's Empowered!!
Right's empowered...Right's empowered!!
Mudboy Slim (05/28/2004)
"WASHINGTON, D.C. - John Kerry has repeatedly called for increasing taxes on the "wealthy" so the affluent "pay their fair share" for the "common good." Ironically, John and Theresa Heinz Kerry, who comprise one the richest families in the world, pay relatively little income tax. Last year, John Kerry and his wife paid just 12% of their combined income in income taxes, despite their assertion that the rich should contribute increased amounts to government coffers. In contrast, President and Mrs. Bush, who had a substantially lower income than the Kerry's, paid over 28% in taxes.
"John Kerry wants other Americans to pay higher taxes while he and his wife manage to pay a rate lower than most of the middle class," said ATR President Grover Norquist. "Apparently, the Kerry's think everyone else should pay higher taxes but them." In addition to finding loopholes and write-offs to decrease his taxes, John Kerry has declined to pay a small, voluntary tax in his home state. The Massachusetts state income tax code contains a provision allowing payers to contribute an extra .6% of their income to benefit the commonwealth. Kerry has consistently failed to pay the extra money, which would have amounted to $687 dollars last year. "John Kerry thinks other hardworking Americans should pay more taxes while he and his billionaire wife pay as little as possible," continued Norquist. "The hypocrisy John Kerry shows on his own tax return is not indicative of the character and judgment America needs in our President."
SHEEEEESH...MUD
"Waco, Texas!!"
(To be sung to Neil Young's "Pocahontas")
Just southward from South Dallas...
Was a scarey firefight...
Agents, they were slaughtered...
When Big Guv'ment flexed its might!!
F.B.I. man...was Force really needed?!!
Guv'ment soldiers...made babies scream!!
Slick killed folks 'cuz we're Christian...
And Left cut the Righteous down!!
RATS love to abort babies...
Slick said, "Gun 'em down!!"
Left loathes Righteousness...RATS love Commie SCUM!!
F.B.I. man, why'd y'all burn 'em up?!
Left massacred our youngest ones... (YIE-YIE-YIE!!)
Willie ran over them with tanks!! (YIE-YIE-YIE!!)
Slick's firebombs silenced children's screams...
And Left's LIES were what really stank!!
Lib'ral paradox..."Was Slick's Massacre FAIR?!!"
Slim's got Indian blood...it's Slick's scalp I'll snare!!
(Guitar pickin'...)
Bill Clinton is a TYRANT!!
Re-Impeach Sliuck's arse to Hell!!
Let's FReep fer Waco, Texas...
We'll celebrate our wealth!!
We ain't mournin'...it's Justice we seek!!
It's a bold stand...Fer Justice FReep!!
Sure, maybe Janet Reno... (YIE-YIE-YIE!!)
Will LIE like a good hire... (YIE-YIE-YIE!!)
But I know Willie really good...
And Bill Clinton ordered "FIRE!!"
Burnt that Compound down...killed them Christian "FReeaks!!"
Janet Reno...Waco, Texas still stinks!!
Mister Clinton...Waco, Texas still stinks!!
Waco, Texas!!
FReegards...MUD (5/08/2004)
free dixie,sw
BTW...Cantor's staff has been calling fer me to attend a fund-raiser later this month...Cantor's a Deputy Whip and needs FReepers' guidance on how to force Dubyuh to enact a more Conservative Agenda in his second term!! HOO's game?!
FReegards...MUD
"Legend of Mudboy Slim"
(To be sung to Charlie Daniels' Band's "Legend of Wooley Swamp")
Well, if you ever go back to the BonAir Swamp, well, you oughtta just do what's Right!!
There's things out there in the middle of them woods that make DemLib'rals cry from fright.
RATS still crawl and Med'yuh lies and Clinton sleeps around on the town...
And they say the ghost of Mudboy Slim gets up and he FReeps around.
Landru couldn't believe it!! Boy just had to find out for hisself.
Sultan couldn't conceive'it!! The dude never would have listened to nobody else.
MizBunny couldn't believe it!! She just had to find out for herself...
There's somethings in this world you just can't explain.
Spoken:
Ol' Mudboy lived in the Virginny Swamp, back in his cave on the woods.
He never did do a lotta harm to the world, 'cuz he always tried doin' Good.
People didn't think too much of MUD...they all thought he acted funny.
Ol' Mudboy didn't care 'bout DemSheeple anyway...all he cared about was gettin' JUSTICE!!
He'd strum a few bars, sing 'bout DemWhores and he'd bury songs all around.
And on certain nights if the moon was Right, Slim'd dig 'em up out of the ground.
He'd pour his heart out 'bout RatWhores on the Black and sung his passions through it.
Yeah, Mudboy Slim was an orn'ry ol' man and that's all that there was to it!!
DemRINOs couldn't believe it. They just had to find out for themselves.
Med'yuh couldn't conceive'it 'cause DemRATS never would have listened to nobody else.
JimRob wouldn't believe it. He just had to find out for hisself...
There's somethings in this world you just can't explain.
DemClintons was white trash. They forced most of US FReeper's ta FReep.
They were mean as Butch Reno and sneaky as RATS and quite arrogant when they'd speak.
One night Ol' Slickboy Willie said, "Y'all meet me at Ol' Muddy's Cave later.
We'll take old Mudboy's Justice and we'll feed him to the Litigators."
They found Ol' Mudboy out in the back with a guitar in his hand,
Thirteen RightWing FReeper songs was just dug up out of the sand.
Then, T-Mac went crazy and he beat Ol' Mudboy, and Slick picked him up off of the ground.
Threw MUD in Left's Swamp and stood there and laughed as the Black water sucked him down.
Then they turned around and went back to MUD's shack and picked up MUD's Justice and ran.
Slick hadn't gone nowhere when they realized they were publicizing MUD's Band.
McAuliffe struggled and Slick squealed but they couldn't get away and just before they went under
They could hear Ol' Mudboy laughing and a voice say, "Fear MUD's Justice!!!
And that's been fifty years ago and you can go by there yet.
There's a spot in the yard in the back of MUD's shack where the ground is always wet.
And on summer nights, if the moon is right down by that dark footpath,
You can hear Slick Willie sqeeeeeealin'. You can hear Ol' Mudboy laugh!!!
(work in progress...)
BWAHAHAHA...MUD (10/14/2002)
Dubya is ABOVE his Daddy. No "read my lips" on this Administration.
He is the real thing, imho .....
Hmmmm...I doubt even Dubyuh would claim he's ABOVE his Daddy, but I believe both 41 and 43 would agree that 43 learned from 41's greatesat mistake, abandoning the Reagan Revolution!! Dubyuh has the potential of being true to the Reagan Revolution, but he's gotta start becoming cognizant of the amount he's been allowing the Federal Leviathan to expand!! The potentiaql's there, but Dubyuh's gotta make Fiscal CFonservatism more of a priority in his second term if he's ever gonna be mentioned amongst the really Great POTUS's!!
FReegards...MUD
BTW..."He is the real thing, imho..."
That remains to be seen, IMHO, my FRiend...the potential's there, I just wanna see some ACTION!!
Omigosh...MUD
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