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Son in Navy having difficult time with Liberals

Posted on 07/28/2004 8:36:19 PM PDT by Two-Bits

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To: Mariner
MOM! Can I trust my back will be covered when my life is on the line with these liberal idiots? I know I am willing to sacrifice my life to save theirs but are they willing to do the same for me?

Any man who is willing to sacrifice his grandchild to an abortionist is also willing to sacrifice my son to save his own skin. That Sir, is the true crux of the matter. This is the mind set that we all are facing now whether in the military or in civilian life.

Mariner, take your ball and go home. I for one will not miss you nor care.

61 posted on 07/28/2004 10:47:24 PM PDT by Two-Bits (God Bless the USA and all who love her)
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To: Two-Bits
Son, ya doing good :-)

Now, about the cup incident....get even. Toss one of their prized possesions overboard.

62 posted on 07/28/2004 11:51:49 PM PDT by lowbridge ("You are an American. You are my brother. I would die for you." -Kurdish Sergeant)
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To: Two-Bits
Though I've never been in the Navy (or any other branch of the armed forces), I know what its like to be far from home and get bullied.

I feel that he could use more than a few nice lines from FReepers. How about a care package? What can he use and what's the address? I'm sure that we can all mail him a little something he can use to pick up his morale. A book, a video, a personal letter, some packaged junk food like cookies or cakes. Whats he allowed to receive and not receive?

63 posted on 07/29/2004 12:03:49 AM PDT by lowbridge ("You are an American. You are my brother. I would die for you." -Kurdish Sergeant)
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To: Two-Bits

PS: What type of things does he like? What kind of books, movies, junk food, etc.


64 posted on 07/29/2004 12:14:21 AM PDT by lowbridge ("You are an American. You are my brother. I would die for you." -Kurdish Sergeant)
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To: USNBandit

Retired USAF here,and I can say most liberals in the AF get out before their first term is up.Know what I mean,most cant put up with the disipline,and put down the peace pipe.


65 posted on 07/29/2004 12:20:53 AM PDT by noutopia (Home of the brave,not the spineless.)
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To: Two-Bits

He should report this behavior to the proper authorities.


66 posted on 07/29/2004 3:23:32 AM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: CasearianDaoist

Didn't sound like he was getting bullied. Sounded like he had a political discussion with a couple idiots who when they ran out of retorts resorted to telling him to F#$k Off. No big deal hear. I think the kids confusion, and rightly so, is why somebody would volunteer for the Navy when they believe in the Democrats....Why join a fight force when you believe in surrender. If these liberals are afloat they are probably the same kind of sailors that don't even know what sea they are in or why they are there.

Those types are huge minority in the Navy as they are in any service. It is no different than a peer officer my brother had in the Army that thought snipers were murderers. That guy was a West Pointer. I had a liberal for a skipper. He wanted to blow up the bad guys just like the rest of us, but he also believed in cradle to grave handouts for the poor. He was trying to round up guys for VIP escorts once when Clinton decided to visit and got pretty upset when we all said no.


67 posted on 07/29/2004 8:06:48 AM PDT by USNBandit (Florida military absentee voter number 537.)
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To: Two-Bits

Thank your son from myself, my wife, and my 3 kids for his service to our country. And thank you for a job well done in raising your son.


68 posted on 07/29/2004 8:12:00 AM PDT by stevio
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To: USNBandit

Well if they are junking his property and cursing at him in the face they can be put up on charges, particularly if they were on ship and on a float. If I were were their CO and I heard about it I would chew them both out. That sort of thing has no business in a combat unit. Year ago there were ways to deal with this sort of thing on a peer level. Now we are so PC that the only way to deal with it is at a formal level. No CO wants to go into combat with those sort of hostilities brewing in the ranks. The kid could be exagerating but if my reading is correct the kid should talk to his immeadiate NCO about it (assuming he is enlisted.) I never met one liberal in the USMC - not one. Even the Blacks and the American Indians were die hard conservatives - in fact the Blacks were more often more to the right and more informed policially as a group than most, at least in the Officer's Corp. Some were Democrats but that was when the Democrats had conservatives in their ranks.


69 posted on 07/29/2004 8:20:23 AM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: Two-Bits
Hi from one Navy Mom to another. Tell your son to hang in there. The Navy does have its liberals.

I have two sons in the Navy. One is a staunch conservative. The other can spout off the dem. talking points faster than John Kerry. Both raised in the same household, same parents, etc. Go figure.

However, NEITHER would stoop to the level of your son's nemesis. They both love to engage in debate but curse them out? Never. Toss a prized possession? No way. Both would defend your son's person and right to hold his opinion whenever and where ever.

The closest thing my lib. son came to name calling was when he told me during one of our discussions, "But Mom, you're such an *extremest*!" Shy, mild-mannered little me took that as a complement (grin).
70 posted on 07/29/2004 8:47:36 AM PDT by Lakeside
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To: Two-Bits


Freepmail me an Email-address(to which I'll respond) and any picture or Artwork you'd like on a coffee mug and I'll get it off to you today. I'll include some other cool stuff too. You can then send it to him.

-Mal


71 posted on 07/29/2004 9:06:11 AM PDT by Malsua
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To: GIJOE2005
I'm sorry but your grown son is a P*ssy if he's still whining to his mommy about being picked on at his age. Jesus I hope's a cook or something unimportant like that. A wimp like that could get the whole ship sunk if he had an important assignment.

What first post to FR and tomorrow to boot!

73 posted on 05/03/2005 8:17:02 PM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.And we're unlikely to get a look into this t)
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I'm sorry but your grown son is a P*ssy if he's still whining to his mommy about being picked on at his age. Jesus I hope's a cook or something unimportant like that. A wimp like that could get the whole ship sunk if he had an important assignment.

I am sure your mom is proud of your service to our country.

Perhaps besides kicking gays out of the military we should also kick out the liberals.

74 posted on 05/03/2005 8:24:45 PM PDT by jsbankston
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To: CasearianDaoist
He should report this behavior to the proper authorities.

Great Idea! He should go to his CO first thing in the AM and complain about those liberals on his ship.

75 posted on 05/03/2005 8:27:16 PM PDT by jsbankston
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To: jsbankston

Just wait for shore leave, in a dark alley that is.


76 posted on 05/03/2005 8:35:33 PM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: Darksheare

Navy ping...


77 posted on 05/03/2005 9:31:18 PM PDT by stands2reason (It's 2005, and two wrongs still don't make a right.)
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To: Two-Bits

The destruction of personal property by the other sailors is a violation of military conduct.
The other sailor lost their military bearing, lost their professional conduct, and in my eyes are not fit to serve.
Your son did admirably well.
Yes, that is how liberals operate, yu are more than correct in stating that.
It's almost an understatement actually.
Prayers up that something good comes out of the hardship and frustration.


78 posted on 05/04/2005 5:39:51 AM PDT by Darksheare (There is a flaw in my surreality, it's totally unrealistic.)
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To: Two-Bits

2B:

This isn't something you just experience in his situation; the only difference is he spends much more time with these jpeople than one would in a normal work environment, especially if they are away at sea. I come across people like this too; they really don't have anything to back up what they say and so that's why they resort to name-calling, getting in your face and other shenanigans. If that guy had said something to me about the abortion, I would've asked him if he would've preferred that she not get pregnant to the abortion and work back on it that way. These people always assume worst case scenario. When will they learn an oz. of prevention is worth a lb. of cure.


79 posted on 05/04/2005 5:47:39 AM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: mass55th; Two-Bits
M55th nailed it. He has to just let it go. It may or may not be fruitful to tell the jacka$$es that they can "agree to disagree" and "let's try to just get the job done together"; I don't know. He may even be able offer to buy 'em a beer, but I suspect it has gone beyond that. He's an E5, and I suspect they are 2's or 3's, possibly a 4 thrown in. The jerk who got in his face may be scrapping for a fight anyway, so who knows if that conflict can be defused - it all depends on what these people are like. Coffee cups are no big deal, but he neads to find a way to drop all of this and keep it from escalating, both for the sake of the unit and for his safety. Accidents happen aboard ship. If he cannot find a way to keep the peace while while in discussions he should avoid those topics. They may try to bait him, he needs to show them they can't get to him. Stick to business, be fair, do the job. Hopefully this will blow over in short order.

If these people are 6s or greater then he needs to pull his head out of his hind quarters. While I doubt this is the case, In the Nav I knew, if your 1-PO and especially your CPO had an axe to grind to the point of being "in your face" - you were in a world o' hurt. They have the power to dispense scads of crap, in most cases with the full sanction of the command, and the know-how to make one's lfe miserable. As a PO2 he likely isn't to that level of authority or experience yet. When will he make 1st?

Lastly, he needs to relax, and so do you. There is no shortage of people like them, and he will be working around them for the rest of his life no matter where he goes.

80 posted on 05/04/2005 6:21:24 AM PDT by 70times7 (An open mind is a cesspool of thought)
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