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To: thecabal; nwctwx
In all fairness to Jim Robinson, he has been hit with copyright infringment lawsuits in the past, so he is rightly a little cautious about what gets posted on FR. I would not put the blame on Jim Robinson.

After all this thread has been through, we shouldn't have to be reminded that this is JR's sandbox, and if we don't like the rules we can go play somewhere else. With that said, in my opinion, "you know who" came here looking for trouble in the hopes of (a) getting the critical posts zapped; and (b) drawing hits to his website from those who want to see what all the fuss is about. Either way he wins, and he did, and I'm partially at fault for going toe to toe. I apologize to all, especially JR. We lost a lot of good stuff today. Unfortunately, if the pattern holds true, in a few weeks some newbies (or even some TN veterns), will post references to some report at that website and the whole cycle will start all over again with "you know who" right smack in the middle.

Lastly, in my opinion, nothing that I saw posted today was copyright protected or defamatory. Although I am by no means an expert on copyyright law, my opinion is based upon twenty years in the courtroom litigating complicated commercial cases, including cases involving libel, slander, defamation, civil RICO, and fraud. The so-called intelligence report in question was posted word for word here yesterday, and while I believe it was allowed under the "fair use doctrine," out of an abundance of caution the posters of the report had it removed at my suggestion.

Unfortunately, as Mr. Robinson can certainly attest, being right on the merits is not necessarily an effective shield against time consuming and expensive litigation in a society that allows just about any person to sue for any reason or no reason at all, with vitually no reprecussions when the suit is eventually tossed. As much as we hate to lose hundreds of posts because of this incident, Mr. Robinson did the right thing under the circumstances.

Now back to your regular programing.

1,463 posted on 07/27/2004 3:29:15 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Labyrinthos

You Rock too...LOL


1,466 posted on 07/27/2004 3:32:29 PM PDT by judicial meanz (I'm sick of wimpy liberal girlymen with documents stuffed in their pants trying to pass as real men)
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To: Labyrinthos

Excellent post, thank you for your expert opinion. You are dead on about the "cycle" that happens here.


1,472 posted on 07/27/2004 3:40:18 PM PDT by thecabal ("For all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!" --Aragorn)
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To: Labyrinthos

I concur with your brief synopsis. I do not have as many years experience as you in law, but I do know there are countless cases filed each day that have no merit and will eventually be tossed out, but with great legal expense for the respondent/victim.

Back to the TM we go!!!


1,478 posted on 07/27/2004 3:45:45 PM PDT by MontanaMatt
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To: Labyrinthos

There you go again. First it's not one but TWO keyboards, and now you're shattering the very foundation of my existence.

My reality requires that you cease to exist immediately.

There is no such thing as a likeable attorney...
There is no such thing as a likeable attorney...
There is no such thing as a likeable attorney...

:)


1,481 posted on 07/27/2004 3:52:01 PM PDT by HipShot ("there is no reason to suspect smegging terrorism")
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To: Labyrinthos

That was a good post by you also, Laby. I just think that the subscription-only newsletter is propietary information and it should only be posted here at the desire or with the permission of the newsletter organization.


1,482 posted on 07/27/2004 3:53:14 PM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: Labyrinthos
I think the only thing that was copyrighted and put on here was the link to that page I posted that had the anti-semetic garbage on the bottom. But it was removed abruptly. So, I don't know what his beef is about copyright on here now?
1,501 posted on 07/27/2004 4:17:27 PM PDT by knak
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To: Labyrinthos

How right you are. Indeed, I did not see all the posts, but I saw nothing there based on my experience as a litigator.

Of course, I do not know the agreement, if any, one must sign when subscribing to the intel briefing from that group. It may strickly prohibit the use or reproduction of those materials, without the written consent of the owners. In that case, however, I fail to see how FR would be responsible for the postings of another. (Particularly if they agreed, as they apparently did, to remove it.)

Time marches on, and the real threats still exist. I hope our longtime posters will stay anctive and continue to bring raw intelligence for examination and consideration. That is the purpose of the thread, as I undrstand it.



1,541 posted on 07/27/2004 4:54:17 PM PDT by Iron Eagle
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To: Labyrinthos

How right you are. Indeed, I did not see all the posts, but I saw nothing there based on my experience as a litigator.

Of course, I do not know the agreement, if any, one must sign when subscribing to the intel briefing from that group. It may strickly prohibit the use or reproduction of those materials, without the written consent of the owners. In that case, however, I fail to see how FR would be responsible for the postings of another. (Particularly if they agreed, as they apparently did, to remove it.)

Time marches on, and the real threats still exist. I hope our longtime posters will stay anctive and continue to bring raw intelligence for examination and consideration. That is the purpose of the thread, as I undrstand it.



1,543 posted on 07/27/2004 4:54:48 PM PDT by Iron Eagle
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